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Why was the colbys cancelled

Discussion in 'The Colbys' started by nwlman, Jul 13, 2010.

  1. nwlman

    nwlman New Member

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    Why was the show cancelled I really liked it was it called the Colbys of California.
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    Because it costed to much and the ratings didn't translate. The first season did decently, but the second slipped really badly in the ratings
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    Unfortunately ABC gave The Colbys the worst possible time slot here in North America: Thursday night at 9pm. Cheers was riding high at 9pm as part of NBC's unstoppable Thursday night line-up, and The Colbys couldn't make a dent in it. I think ABC was hurting across the board with their shows and they were hoping that The Colbys would provide counter-programming to NBC's comedy line-up.

    I still wonder if things would of been different ratings-wise if The Colbys aired immediately after Dynasty at 10pm on Wednesday nights. Heck, if the show was on ANY other night besides Thursday.
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    There were many reasons that could be given as to why The Colbys failed. Too expensive, too similar to Dynasty, bad timeslot etc but I think one of the main factors was that it premiered at a time when primetime soaps had reached their peak and were on the downturn in general. Viewers were still watching Dallas, Dynasty, Falcon Crest and Knots Landing as they had invested years into them having started watching them when primetime soaps were really popular (the early 80's). By the mid 80's, sitcoms had become the popular shows to watch and while people were still watching the soaps, their ratings were on the wane. The Colbys was actually one of the more "successful" shortlived primetime soaps alongside Flamingo Road with both of them running for two seasons. There were numerous others that premiered and failed after a number of episodes such as Bare Essence, Berrengers, Paper Dolls, The Hamptons and so on.
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    And these shows were broadcasted before the prime time soap genre had reached it's peak!
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    willie oleson Well-Known Member

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    Would The Colbys have had a better chance if they had started it 2 years earlier?
    I don't think Jeff and Fallon's storylines were important enough to keep them around during Dynasty's 4th season. Personally I could have done without the whole Fallon-Jeff-Kirby triangle.
    After the divorce a disappointed and bittered Jeff could have moved to California.
    Fallon would follow afterwards because of the ongoing custody battle - there she would meet Miles, etcetera etcetera.
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    I loved the Colbys when it was first on, and loved Emma Samms. 'course I was also a teenager at the time who also loved General Hospital, so that helped lol. I was really sad when it ended.
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    Never liked the Colbys as it was way to similar to Dynasty in every sense possible, I think this article I found summs up my thoughts on the issue
    "Jason, the powerful business magnate, was strikingly similar to Dynasty 's Blake Carrington. Likewise, Sable appeared to be patterned after Dynasty 's villainess Alexis (and to reinforce that idea, it was revealed that Alexis and Sable were cousins), while Francesca seemed akin to Dynasty 's Krystle. Additionally, old Dynasty plotlines seemed to be recycled in the new series. For example, on Dynasty , Jeff married Kirby, who had been raped by Adam and became pregnant, while on The Colbys , Jeff married Fallon, who had similarly been raped by Miles and became pregnant. The similarities between the two shows and the frequent cross-overs from Dynasty cast members did little to help The Colbys establish its own identity during its initial season, which, unfortunately, did not share the same ratings success as its predecessor. To make matters worse, at the end of the first season, two of the series' regulars, Barbara Stanwyck (Constance) and Ken Howard (Garrett), quit the show. During the show's second season, efforts were made to improve the show, such as adding a handful of new characters and curtailing the crossovers with the original series."
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    I've always seen it as MORE Dynasty, rather than a completely different NEW Dynasty.
    It seemed like a typical product for those who couldn't get enough of the stuff, like people who watch all the CSI shows - I don't think The Colbys was targeted at a whole new audience.
    Yes it lacked originality but at the same time I think a certain similar structure and setting was inevitable.
    The patriarch and his adult son and daughters all living together in the same big house - it was almost like a keystone for these melodramatic tv shows.
    And was their on-and-off love life still interesting, or has it ever been interesting enough, to warrant a spin-off?
    I think the most significant difference between Dynasty and The Colbys is that Dynasty started as The Krystle Show. They had Linda Evans.
    The Colbys really didn't have someone like her - the newcomer, the underdog, someone to root or care for.

    Watching The Colbys was like peeking through the window of Blake Carrington's neighbours.
    And I for one have always been nosy enough!
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    Lol you are funny, but I agree with almost everything. But in my opinion Fallon and Jeff were important in thoses seasons, but oh well.... the biggest problem with The Colbys is that it never did anything to make it more original or to set it apart from Dynasty.
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    Maybe they should have been in the honey business;)
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    You are right, it was far too similar to Dynasty. As Willie Oleson pointed out, it just seemed like more Dynasty. It's been said on here before that they should have taken advantage more of the LA setting to give the show a different feel but they didn't. Like Dynasty, the show could have been set anywhere as the outdoor scenes never really reflected their supposed setting. At least with Dallas they had scenes on the ranch and Knots had scenes on the beach. There were no ski trips up the Rockies on Dynasty or shopping trips down Rodeo Drive on The Colbys which could have at least given viewers the sense that the show was set in the city it was supposed to be.
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    I just read that and laughed for hours
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    Agree with everything
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    From what I've read on these forums I was under the impression they already knew the show would not be renewed for a third season:confused:
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    Well it was kind of obvious, as it costed too much and it wasn't translating in ratings
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    Again, most of you take the biased view opinionated by Joan herself. Yes, The Colbys was like Dynasty, they intended it to be that way as a companion piece, not a true spinoff. It wasn't Knots Landing to Dallas, it was Dynasty TWO. Too much like Dynasty? Admit it, it was better than Dynasty at the time.

    There were plans for a third season and they've been posted here before. Despite your whinings, and the poor ratings, the series was receiving good reviews at the time and would probably gotten a third season had Dynasty not been screwing up and Richard Shapiro adding aliens to the cast. Yes, it was too expensive to have both, so ABC was left with a question: cancel the lower rated better show or the higher rated inferior show? In other words, which one is still making us some money?
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    Even if it was Dynasty II, a major criticism it had at the time and to this date, is that is was basically a clone of Dynasty and not that is something bad, but I think that one thing of something is enough. Besides it used storylines from previous Dynasty seasons, it had very similar characters.... so all this things made it so unoriginal and unispired. I remember that my mom once said "Why would I want to see something I have already seen before?".
    Moving on, althought in the last episodes there was a slight increase in the ratings there were never plans of a third season even if it did have better reviews. I don't think the decison that ABC made was stupid, actually it made a lot of sense. I mean sure we all want good reviews and success but sometimes we can't have both and reviews don't just make it, they don't provide you money to continue, you just can't survive with that. So obviously you will keep the one that is doing well, not the other way around as it would of probably been canceled anyway. In other words, why keep something where you are losing money?.
    Finally, although I agree with what you are saying about Shapiro, in a sense I understand why they did it as they were desperate to save the show and thought that with that cliffhanger the network would have to pick it up for a next season, by the way it wasn't his entire fault as it has been said numerous times that it was an idea conceived by him and William Bast
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    DF, please get your facts straight. At least two sources have given the details about the third season of the Colbys. They have been reprinted on this site.

    Second, Bast denies such a claim.

    Please don't blur facts and opinions.

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