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Am I reading too much into the one and only Fallon/Amanda scene?

Discussion in 'Dynasty' started by TJames03, Oct 16, 2018.

  1. TJames03

    TJames03 Soap Chat Well-Known Member

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    OK, this scene was atrocious, BUT.....everyone says how it would be great if Fallon and Amanda had a rivalry - well, it looks to me like Amanda WAS giving Fallon dirty looks and being defiant about being with her ex-BF....or is it just me??
     
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  2. Ked

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    It could be just you... though that's *not* to say that it's *impossible*...
     
  3. Michael Torrance

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    What is impossible is to decide if Karen Cellini was giving dirty looks or if she was in the early stages of Stye infection.
     
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    Its hard to believe that according to writers Fallon was supposedly around 8 years OLDER than Amanda, while I could believe that had PSM & CO were playing the sisters
    Emma Samms clearly looks like the younger sister to Karen Cellini's older sister.
     
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  5. Ked

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    Yes. The hair, clothing, makeup and lighting are all wrong on Karen. I recall a few scenes where she actually does look early-to-mid 20s, so its not like they were dealing with an impossible task. They were just incompetent at making her consistently young-looking. Had they done it right, they could have passed Emma and Karen off as the same age, so it'd be easy to believe that either one of them could be the older/younger sister.
     
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    Where is the Cellini love?! :) BOT, I can easily see that Amanda is daring Fallon RE: Michael!
     
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    I think it would have been a funny/ironic echo to the pilot if Fallon, still suffering from the side-effects of amnesia, didn't recognize Michael and, when he addresses her in a familiar way, asks, "Do I know you?" Plus, it'd also be a nod towards the fact that Fallon is being played by a different actress, so... double entendre! :lol:
     
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    Cellini still wasn't any worse a recast than Coleman or Samms....
     
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    Has any other recast been so bad they had to erase the character from existence altogether?
     
  10. Ked

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    That wasn't Cellini's fault, though, it was the writers/showrunners. From all the info we've been able to gather, they didn't bother to properly work with her. Heck, at that time, they didn't bother properly working with the whole show!
     
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    When I watched this scene for the first time I thought that Fallon's "I thought you're alone" refers to Michael since she didn't know who the lady with him was.

    I always read Amanda's smile in this scene as Cellini's hidden defending reaction. It's like she doesn't know what is going on with a script and smiling is the only thing left for her to do.
     
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    I disagree. While the execs at at the time were indeed dropping the ball, that wasn't the only season in DYNASTY where this had happened. In the exact same situation, Oxenberg would not have been erased from existence. Pamela Bellwood was given terrible material a couple of seasons, but she made it work for the character. And before someone says that Cellini was inexperienced, so was Oxenberg when first hired. But Oxenberg had some ability to make the camera like her whereas Cellini was just an ice column with creepy looking eyes.
     
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    They really couldn't with any of them BUT Amanda. Fallon never should have returned in any way.
     
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    They really couldn't with any of them BUT Cellini.

    Her return was not handled well--between the amnesia and the COLBYS move and the Stepford wife written there, it was a disaster. But eventually on DYNASTY she worked, better than Coleman I thought. I mean, she was still not half as good as PSM's early seasons, but she was acceptable.

    Another reason why I did not mind her return was that her death was actually not that influential on the show (by that time nothing was). Bobby's death on DALLAS had a huge ripple effect, tsunami-like, thus when he came back it was a cop-out not just for the dream but also for erasing what the show had done with the death. On DYNASTY her death was merely a pebble on a lake as an effect.
     
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    Fallon II & Amanda I finally meet in "Treacherous Beauties"
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    I could almost even buy her being Karen Cellini's daughter!
     
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    If only they had had a catfight in that movie. It would have made up for a multitude of sins... but at least we got to have a scene of them having a spa moment. :lol:
     

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