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...And Brenda Strong never forgot Lorimar´s "Dallas"

Discussion in 'Dallas TNT' started by Toni, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. Toni

    Toni Soap Chat Dream Maker

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    Maybe this has been posted before, but today I was watching the amazing Paley Center videos for "Desperate Housewives", and in one of them, dated on 18 April, 2009 (so, prior to her TNT "Dallas" experience), she mentions, when asked if she knows how Mary Alice could be brought back from the dead, that there couldn´t be a return in the shower, like "Dallas" (did she watch it or just remembered she was on it, just a little after Bobby´s return? Maybe both!).

    I lol´d and thought about sharing it with you! (go to 1´30´´ if you don´t wanna remember those gorgeous little ladies and that fantastic, much-missed show!)


    PS: If you do miss them and wanna check if there was animosity and how well they covered it up, here is the URL of Paley Fest:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUVeOmkpnYTy3cLVhR3Ayp-ouQRDs0lmR
     
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  2. Rove

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    My theory? It proves the legacy of Dallas and the subliminal message which still resonates today, or in this case 2009. I'd imagine two things spring to mind when people think of Dallas; "Who Shot JR?, and Bobby spinning in the shower. One of those things put Dallas on the map, the other just about wiped it off. And isn't that a curious thing.
     
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  3. Karin Schill

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    I love how references to the original Dallas keeps popping up every now and then. Like I remember back in 2001 when Buffy had "died" and the show's creator Joss Whedon kept saying something like "It's won't be like Patrick Duffy in the shower!" in discussions how he planned to bring the character back! ;)

    I loved Desperate housewives btw.
     
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  4. Rove

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    And this is why Dallas still has legs. Many here on Soapchat will debate their preference between the big 4; Dallas, Dynasty, Falcon Crest and Knots Landing. But out of those big 4 Dallas is still the one which is still referenced in today's media. I don't hear anything about Dynasty, Falcon Crest or Knots Landing. The only time when I hear anything remotely spoken about Dynasty is when Dame Joan Collins visits Australia and does her round of interviews and inevitably her role as Alexis Carrington comes up. I sometimes wonder if she performs an internal eye roll but let's be honest, it's that character which put her on the map.
     
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    Actually both in the US and Europe, when discussing 80s fashion or 80s greed, DYNASTY is more usually referenced by the media as the decade-defining show. I think among actors and people in the TV industry, "who shot J.R." is discussed as a defining genre moment, because it literally invented the cliffhanger, and no other show has such a powerful moment. Similarly, the shower scene was a big "sc@ew you to the viewers," and no other show has such a devastating moment (though THE COLBYS did try).
     
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    I agree with Rove. When I hear people talking and see media mentions about the soaps of the 80s, or the greed of the 80s, it’s almost always Dallas. Almost never Dynasty.
     
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    I haven't seen Dynasty, but my understanding of it is that compared to Dallas, Dynasty was aimed more at a female audience so it wouldn't surprise me if when discussing 80s fashion, Dynasty is referenced more than Dallas. Fashion was never something Dallas was centered on. There was definitely a certain western look designed to give the show authenticity so regarding fashion, things like cowboy boots, string ties and big belt buckles were a big part of the look of the show. Since that's a fashion that's regional as opposed to national, I wouldn't have expected western style fashion to have caught on on a national scale just because that was the Texan look Dallas was going for. I did buy a pair of Tony Lama handmade cowboy boots in the late 80s but not just because I liked Dallas. I just like boots.

    That's been my observation as well. I hear Dallas mentioned from time to time in terms of 80s culture or successful TV dramas. Dallas was the most successful TV drama ever made, wasn't it? As for "greed of the 80s" I haven't heard about that. Greed certainly wasn't invented in the 80s and if I had to try to name a time when greed seemed to define an era, I think I'd name the time period of the first decade of the 21st century which included the Enron and other similar scandals as well as Bernie Madoff's Ponzi scheme of that decade.

    The 1980s are known for being a time when things were going especially well in America including the state of the economy, the high standard of living we enjoyed then, and in our society in general feeling very good about the state of things in our country. During much of the 70s there had been a certain malaise in the air both during and post-Vietnam as well as during the massive layoffs in the steel industry among others. The Iranians took American hostages at The U.S. Embassy near the end of the 70s and that contributed to that "down" feeling in the country. Things turned around right around the time when we elected Ronald Reagan as our new President. He was an extremely well-liked President, nicknamed "The Great Communicator" and that malaise that had been in the air was replaced with a new feeling of optimism which began with our hostages in Iran being freed the day Reagan took office and then continued. A huge factor was our winning of The Cold War. The Berlin Wall came down, The Soviet Union collapsed, and as a result we were left as the world's only remaining superpower.

    These are the things I associate with the 80s - not greed. Greed had always been around but wasn't any more prevalent than than in previous times. Rather than greed, I associate ambition, work ethic, optimism and success with the 1980s.
     
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    I've always been rather annoyed the movie, "Wall Street" encapsulates the 80's with its "Greed.............. is good" mantra. And I always found it funny the movie was released 2 months after the Black Monday Stock Market Crash. Talk about ill timing for a movie release. I'll always look back at the 80's as being a feel good decade however I was in my 20's so it was good times, good friends, great music, and brilliant television which is now dying a slow death.
     
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