Bill Maher Attacks Liberals for Criticizing Trump’s Meeting With Kim Jong Un

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  1. Frank Underwood

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    “This could be the one thing that Trump, honestly, is uniquely qualified to pull off,” the ‘Real Time’ host argued.

    There were two big news stories this week regarding President Trump.

    The first: Stormy Daniels, a porn star who was paid $130,000 by Trump’s personal attorney for her silence concerning their alleged affair—a transaction which may be in violation of campaign finance rules—not only sued Trump for purportedly violating their “hush agreement,” but may be in possession of “certain still images and/or text messages” of the president.

    The second: President Trump has agreed to meet with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, with press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders saying, “He will accept the invitation to meet with Kim Jong Un at a place and time to be determined.” Whether or not Trump did to bury the Stormy news is anyone’s guess.

    Bill Maher, an outspoken Trump critic, was elated—by the North Korea news.

    “I know why I’m happy: because Kim Jong Un of North Korea yesterday told South Korea that he’s willing to meet with the leader of the United States,” Maher said during his opening monologue. “Fat man and little boy are gonna have a date!”

    The Real Time host then railed against liberals who were critical of the proposed diplomatic summit.

    “All these liberals who are reflexively hating on this, A) Obama—remember him?—proposed the exact same thing in 2008 and they loved it, and B) you know, f*** you, you don’t live on the west coast where a nuke can get here faster than an Uber from North Korea,” exclaimed Maher.

    He continued: “I mean, what is this bullshit? ‘No president has ever done this.’ Yeah, and they all failed! So I’m going to file this one under, ‘So crazy it just might work.’ This could be the one thing that Trump, honestly, is uniquely qualified to pull off, because Kim and him, Rocket Man and Rain Man, are mirror images. In a weird way, they respect and like each other. Trump said he’s a ‘smart cookie.’ They have the same interests: flattery, celebrity, tyranny. They both have daddy issues, and overeating issues, and problematic family members, and inexplicable hair.”

    As to Maher’s first point, yes, during a CNN/YouTube debate on July 24, 2007, then-candidate Obama said he’d meet with “separately, without precondition” with the leaders of North Korea, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, and Cuba.

    “I would,” Obama said. “And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them—which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of [the George W. Bush] administration—is ridiculous.”

    He never followed through on that promise, of course.

    And Maher wasn’t done.

    “Another stupid argument I heard on TV last night: ‘Well, we’ll just be giving Kim the respect he and his family have always craved.’ So what? So what if it works?! My old pot dealer used to hang out with me because I’m a celebrity and I still got free weed,” he joked.

    “And you know what, if you hate Trump so much—I do—this may not even be happening because of Donald Trump,” he added. “It could be his tough talk, it could be because of the sanctions, it could have been because of the Olympics. Who knows what is in Kim Jong Un’s mind? It could be because Shape of Water won Best Picture and he thought, well, if you can f*** a fish you can negotiate with a whale.”

    Source: https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-...r-criticizing-trumps-meeting-with-kim-jong-un
     
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    The problem is - it has a distinct odor of a desperately-needed deflection from Stormy-Mueller-Jarred-etc. flood of bad news and a stunt with little substance from a guy who still thinks he's on a reality show and thinks of each day as an episode of a reality show.

    His disturbingly narcissistic personality lives for pulling cliffhangers and plot twists taking everyone by surprise.

    Hence his staff not knowing about it till the last moment and then the White House backtracking saying it's not going to happen unless certain conditions are met and then backtracking on that, too, saying it is happening for sure. Utter mess.

    If something good comes out of it - great. But agreeing to meet a guy who always reneges on promises (while going ahead behind-the-scenes with his agenda anyway) doesn't automatically get you a Nobel Peace Prize. Even though baby Trump and his cult followers would think so.
     
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    All of that is true, of course. However, the liberals who find fault with this meeting seem to do so on the grounds that it's a "win" for North Korea.

    If their misgivings were simply because Trump's an impulsive, narcissistic trainwreck looking to distract from his many scandals, I would better understand it. But to be against a US President meeting with the leader of North Korea because it makes us look "weak" sounds like a Republican talking point. Democrats are supposed to be for diplomatic measures.

    If a Democrat were president, would they use the same reasoning to oppose such a meeting? According to Maher, most liberals were for it when Obama proposed the idea.
     
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    I don't know who these "liberals" that Maher refers to are and how many he heard voice those opinions, I assume in panel discussions on cable news where people exchange all kinds of opinions, but I don't see why he's making such a big deal out of it.

    I got annoyed by the CNN lady pulling a "Van Jones" the other night when suggesting Trump might go down in history as a great President if he pulls off this North Korea thing, but I attribute that to a temporary lapse of judgement on her part, a brain-fart of sorts. I wouldn't make a big deal out of what she said, as aggravating as I find it. And I'd say the same for Mrs. Stein and her "poor North Korea is merely taking defensive action in fear of US aggression" line of reasoning.

    A peaceful resolution is necessary for one reason only - there is no other good solution without a catastrophic number of casualties. But, Kim Jong Un certainly hasn't done anything but defy the international community, he has no problem killing members of his own family, starving North Korean people in pursuit of his expensive nuclear ambitions, the list goes on and on.
     
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    Maher said he heard liberals voice those opinions on cable news shows, and I've seen them say as much on Twitter.

    I think he sees it as a big deal because their opposition to the meeting is based on anti-diplomacy, rather than the fact that Trump's unstable and unpredictable. Obviously this is only the opinion of some liberals, considering liberals like Maher support diplomacy. I don't always agree with Maher, but I do find it troubling whenever the left co-opts right wing rhetoric.

    Yes, Trump could never be a great president with his record and scandals. It makes about as much sense as former George W. Bush critics who now praise him.

    No matter how horrible the regime, I'm of the belief that peaceful resolutions should always be tried first. When we get involved militarily, we make things worse with no end in sight.
     
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