Discussion in 'Music' started by Alexis, Sep 16, 2016.
I just received an email that my CD has been shipped, so I can expect it will arrived tomorrow.
Well I had a listen last night when my digital album became available and then have been listening a little today also. On the whole I really like the album. Stand out tracks for me are The Hard Way which just reminds me of my cousin who'd been ill. The entire way through her treatments we joked that she couldn't do anything the easy way. And that song is just bang on her whole story. I sent it to her this morning and she cried!
Other favourites are The Chase which has a strange vibe about it. It makes me nostalgic but I haven't really worked out what for. I think it reminds me of the early/mid 90s or even late '80s. Sunny days and hearing a song that stuck in your head but you didn't know who it was and you had no internet to look it up so you just were happy when you did catch a bit of it on the radio... That's a strange thing to be nostalgic for but there you are. For The Lover That I Lost is lovely, looking back on relationship with hindsight and seeing that even the bad times were good.
How Did You Get Here almost sounds like it could have been on Falling Into You. It's very Phil Spector. It's very '90s does '60s and if Celine's vocal delivery was crisper and more polished and less relaxed as she is now it would be a Falling Into You song. It would fit right in with Dreaming Of You and I Love You from that album. It also sounds very Christmasy but that's no doubt the Spector vibe. Sigh.... Those Spector tracks will never see the light of day.
Perfect Goodbye is a gorgeous sad song about the end of a relationship but it's also dark. It's like pretending everything is ok that last night when you know in the morning that you'll never see that person again. I was talking to a my cousin about the album today and she also mentioned the dark vibe. She said she got a Nick Cave murder ballad vibe from it, which is funny as it reminded me of Kylie's Bitter Sweet Goodbye as far as lyrics go. And Celine Dion says"Shit" in this one. It's a gorgeous song, and very dreamy/ unreal due to the way the piano is produced/echoed.
Heart Of Glass is also pretty good. It sounds like a Ryan Tedder/Leona Lewis song, like it came from Leona's Glass Heart album. Which is funny considering the title. It's a good song though. Actually it's a pretty amazing pop song. It's on now and I also get a strange Annie Lennox Diva thing from it.
Ironically, Best Of All isn't even the best of the album. It's my least favourite song on the album. I think I will put Ashes in it's place.
Strangely the song Play Me Like A Love Song isn't on the album. I thought that was the best Celine song I had heard in a long time when I heard that little clip a few months back. Not happy that it's not on the album.
I think this album is actually missing that full on Celine Diva moment. There's no I Surrender, or Break Away or Think Twice or All Coming Back To Me Now or... There's not that big power ballad standard song. I don't think there is that instant one on this album. Although that song may be Lying Down, I'm not sure.
I don't have the physical CD yet so I cant tell who wrote or produced what. Online when you look up the track listing for Courage it says 21 songs, the last being called Soul. I don't have that song?
Something I have to note is that I really miss how Celine's vocal used to be produced back in the '90s and '00s. After Taking Chances it seems that the producers relaxed in their approach. Sometimes Celine's pronunciation is very difficult to understand. I know this is likely more how she speaks naturally but when she was introduced to the English speaking audience her pronunciation on songs was crystal clear. This somehow made her voice sound brighter and her vocals crisper. Every inflection was heard. I think a lot of this was David Foster and Humberto Gatica. In the albums that came after Taking Chances I think a lot of the vocal production sounds awful. Like they don't know how to capture her voice to it's full advantage. Sometimes lines in a song are very difficult to understand and you have to read the lyrics to make it out.
Reviewers invariably seem to be fixated on finding as many ways to be clever /bitchy about Celine as they can rather than actually describe the album. There are more flowery sentences mocking her than there are about what the songs are like. Clearly a review of someone who doesn't like her isn't going to be great, Celine just isn't his bag... And he knew that before he was paid to listen to it and write a review. It would be like asking me to eat a dish comprised of Squid and Mushrooms and then rate my plate. Nil Points.
The thing about her that this man doesn't get because he isn't a fan is that it was very cool to not like Celine. And so all the sheepy sheep went with that and didn't like Celine because that's what sheep do. They go with the flock. Most of the people who don't like her or didn't like her at the height of her fame had never even listened to a Celine Dion album. They would have heard her mammoth undying singles only. So they would judge her on that. She only does songs like My Heart Will Go On and Think Twice? Well not really. There was an active move against Celine by the cool music press for years. Like Disco and SAW I guess only this wasn't a genre of music it was one woman. And yet she would not go away and yet she kept on selling, even when radio wouldn't play her. Mariah gave in and pleased the cool music press by becoming a stripper with requisite guest rappers and MTV and the like continued to play her, for a while. Whitney always had that real R&B edge and there was Bobby Brown and drugs and she was always going to be cool. It seems that the very reason that the music press hated Celine was that she was talented, and that she wasn't a mess. They would always bring up that she didn't write her own material. As if being a singer should automatically make her an excellent songwriter. It was just the kind of stuck up their own arse thing that every copy and paste review or her albums said. And yet Celine continued to sell and continued to have the best voice in the business. And then what happened? Kids grew up listening to her, from their parents and they didn't judge her on the basis of bitchy '90s reviews and articles about her. They just knew she could sing, like no other. And they also noticed how she dressed. They noticed that she was amazing, and then the rest of the world caught on. Celine didn't start dressing that way last year or the year before. She's always, always been out there with her style and fashion. It just wasn't cool to say that.
It's very strange when someone you have liked for years, that was never really considered cool suddenly becomes the darling of everybody. One the one hand it's like wow... you finally get it! On the other it's like, wow... you weak sheepish two faced morons.
I love her On Ne Changes Pas song. Prefer her in French. Would love to see her live.
That's one of my favourite Celine songs ever. She's touring at the minute right through to next year. I will be seeing her next September. You should check for tickets near you.
I read somewhere that Celine's latest album "Courage" will also be released on elpee, and it will be on 2 red vinyls if i'm right.
I haven't made my review on the album yet because i;m to busy with other thinks, but next year i will have more time again.
I gave my sister the new album on CD for Christmas. I then made sure to rip it for myself and put it on my computer and phone. I have only heard it all the way through once so far. It feels like the album is a bit uneven. It doesn't have a strong direction like some of her earlier albums. There are some amazing songs on it but it is a bit all over the place and lacks a red thread IMHO.
I will also share more opinions about the album once I've heard it some more.
I agree with most what you said, i only have heard the albums two times or so, but i need to hear it a couple of more times before I make my full review on it.
The Eg White songs need destroying and she needs to never work with him ever again. It's the most utterly bland bollocks she's done since she let Babyface drag her kicking and screaming into the middle of the road and be run over by the R&B-lite truck.
There are a few great songs on the album but it lacks the energy and direction of her earlier stuff. The main problem for me with this album and her last for that matter is the vocal production. Her voice is just recorded and captured in a much different way now and I don't like it. She always did a bit of mimicry before on albums too. Sounding like Barbara or the BeeGees or whatever on certain songs but now that's just on every song. She's sounding like the songwriter. Nobody wants to hear that. They want to hear Celine Dion.
The Hard Way is a perfect example. It's a great song and melody and Celine is obviously a great singer but parts of the song are almost indecipherable. The lyrics aren't clearly made out.
It's like nobody is saying, "Wait, this could be better" for the amount of time that it takes her to record an album now. Which is 3+ years I think it could be better. I also really think she needs to work more with one set of songwriters and let them create a theme/feel for the album. Than just have all these random songs that don't really gel together.
I would honestly be much happier with maybe 12 well constructed and produced songs than have 20 random tracks from all over the place crammed into one album. In all the songs on the Courage deluxe album there are probably 2 albums worth of material. One great album and one middling album.
I also don't feel that new/current writers are offering up material that compliments Celine's unique voice. People like David Foster and Diane Warren and Jim Steinman and even people like Max Martin were giving Celine songs that could only be sang by Celine. Songs that played to her strengths as a singer. A lot of what has been on her last two albums could have been sang by anyone. They are kind of forgettable.
For anyone who bought tickets for Celine Dion's Courage World tour.
Well it was to be expected but Celine Dion has just announced that her European tour is not continuing, everything will be postponed until September 1 this year, new dates may be announced once everything is safe again.
I think it is a good and sensible decision, but sad for all Celine Dion fans.
I think my show in Dublin is for September 15th. So I am not holding my breath that that date will go ahead. Honestly I would rather it was postponed as I would feel very uneasy travelling that far and I don't even think the person I am to go with would be allowed to go while all this going on as she's shielding at the moment.
Okay, well maybe you get lucky but like you i don't think they will go on after 1 september, i gues they will continue at leeast at the and of this year of next year in 2021. But then again, at least we have something to look forward to, unless some of the show are completely canceled.
I would not go to a concert myself either if it is not completely 100% safe for me to go, then I would rather not go there at all, i would ask for my money back or I will sell my ticket.
I was supposed to have gone to the Stockholm concert in august. It is not mentioned in the list of venues that are affected by this. But I highly doubt that the concert will go on considering the Covid-19 situation.
I think the best thing would be if Celine Dion could just reschedule the European leg of the tour until next year. But maybe she's already booked on other locations then.
But yeah I'd rather have the concert to look forward to at a later date than to just get my money back.
That's strange, maybe they waiting how it goes in your country.
I hope indeed that Celine Dion will postpone all the concert until next year in Europe, than get my money back while I was really looking forward to going.
Just some great Celine Dion pictures through the years, because i posted double.
I would also like to pay a little attention at the death of Celine Dion's mother "Teresa Dion", who passed away earlier this year, she also wrote Celine's first hit "Ce N'était Qu'un Rêve" in 1981
She surely will be missed.
Yeah poor Celine has had her share of grief and loses over the last couple of years. First her father died, then her husband and one of her brothers and now her mother.
It's a good thing she has many more siblings and also her sons. The oldest one has gotten so big and resembles his dad quite a lot. It must be a real comfort to her to have them.
P.S Celine's voice. I mean even in 1981, at I think 13 she had such a strong voice!
Yes Celine Dion certainly went through a lot, and all in the Dion family. First her niece who had a rare muscle disease where Celine dedicated the song "Fly" to her. Then her father whee Celine dedicated the song "Dance With My Father" to him, and in 2016 her husband René and a week later also her brother, and now her mother who died at a respectable age of 92.
Yes her voice was very strong and incredible at her age of 13, there's also a Christmas song on her second 1981 album she sang there a very strong and long note that it just gave me goosebumps, and when i get goosebumps from a song then it means i love it.
Well Celine rescheduled the European dates for the Courage tour today. So now it starts in March next year. I will be seeing her April 12 in Dublin! I am just glad it's all going ahead.
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