Could CW Dynasty spin-off into something else?

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  1. Ked

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    Indeed. :D

    Actually... believe it or not, I'm okay with there being no catfight in "Peyton Place."

    I know, I know, shocking, but for some reason, "Peyton Place" just doesn't really seem like a catfight show... Well, I can see there being a few b*tch-slaps, and I can see one woman murdering another, but an out-and-out catfight... I don't know, it just doesn't seem fitting.

    For me, *this* is a Peyton Place Catfight:


    Although you do raise a good point about Doris Schuster (she was the New Yorker lady with the deaf/mute daughter who witnessed a murder/fight, right?) being the dress shop owner, wanting to bring some high fashion in... she could even hold a fashion show at the high school, or at some other place to garner attention.

    Heh, but the way you described that shop becoming the hangout for all the gossips reminds me of the Pratt sisters from "Lark Rise to Candleford". They were a pair of spinster seamstresses who were jealous, spiteful and gossipy towards anyone they deemed lower than them, but they'd fawn over anyone who was either their equal or superior. Pearl Pratt was particularly notorious, although Ruby Pratt was generally much nicer. In their first season, they were a pair of ugly old b*tches, but as the series wore on, they became steadily nicer and prettier.

    This is one scene that kind've sums them up a bit:


    But anyway, I suppose a catfight is more or less mandatory by today's standards. And the idea of Betty, a Hispanic girl, and Selena, a black girl, each wearing trendy 60s clothes, and fighting each other in a dress shop, knocking over mannequins and such, does sound like a lot of fun. :D
     
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  2. Willie Oleson

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    Especially if it happens in the shop window and they're only wearing underwear. Le scandal! Dr. Rossi would have to stop them of course, but maybe he would take some time to "figure out" what was going ono_O

    Why should Betty be hispanic?
     
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    Funny how you don't ask why Selena should be black. :lol:

    But regarding why I would have Betty be Hispanic, a few things inspired that choice. First of all, shows like Dynasty and Riverdale have diversified their original almost-all-white casts, which does better reflect today's culture and offers more representation. So when I thought to myself, "Which Peyton characters could be non-white?" After some thought, I figured the Cross family could be black (they could act as foils to the richer Miles family), but I wondered if that could be enough.

    Then I remembered how Riverdale made Veronica Hispanic, so why not do the same for Betty (thanks to Barbara Parkins, my image of Betty Anderson must always have great big dark eyes and real thick, black hair; and any Hispanic girl can answer that description). At first that was just a random choice, but then I came across an interview of Rita Moreno.



    What she went through during her career during the 50s, how she was always the "ethnic" girl with the funny accent, and never the "American" girl; how growing up, she had no role models - not until she got the part of Anita in "West Side Story"; how Anita became her role model...

    It all struck me as an opportunity with making Betty Anderson Hispanic. What would it be like for a teenage Hispanic girl in a mostly white, small and gossipy town during the 1960s? Seems like a pretty good thing for a show like "Peyton Place" to delve into.
     
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    Because I thought she was your fanmade mash-up of the novel-Selena and the series-Vickie Fletcher, who schemed and blackmailed her way into Dr. Harry Miles' family.
    But Betty was "that girl", that girl who was deemed too pretty and too sexy for her own good. That girl who wanted to live in The Mansion and never disguised that eagerness which added to the overall impression of a gold digger and a vixen - but since she was always so honest about it it never really felt that way.
    What I'm saying is that she felt like an outcast without having to address the issues of race which, imho, would have been a little too obvious.
    Not that it couldn't work for an Hispanic Betty, but I wouldn't want race to outweigh her personal demons.
    Harry Miles and his family weren't outcasts at all, the problem started with Lew and Carolyn Russell's supposed interracial affair.

    So, what now? Chaos in the writers room? So soon already?:D

    Anyway, I think it would be a good idea to move Tom and Susan Winter to an earlier stage in the story, and probably skip the Rachel Welles storyline since it was only done to distract the audience after Mia Farrow had left.
    The Webbers should be there, and the Chernaks (weren't they somewhat similar to the novel's Cross family?) and maybe they could alter the Who Killed Ann Colby mystery.
    Or maybe there is nothing to alter since it was never revealed whodunit. I still think it was Hannah Cord!
     
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    Oh. Nope. I just used a screencap of Vickie because I had already decided to make Selena black, but there weren't any other young black women on the show (I don't think?). Although... I was thinking about going ahead and having Lew Miles be gay (that would actually be part of the reason why his family moved to Peyton Place: Lew had been sexually molested by a colleague of Harrys', but Lew admitted to enjoying it; the Miles' decided to start fresh in a new town), and he and Norman Page end up meeting secretly.

    Taking your idea of Selena being a mash-up of the original Selena and of Vickie, perhaps she finds out about Lew and Norman, and blackmails Lew into marrying her to escape her poverty-stricken life... but she decides to be nice and tells Lew he can still see Norman. After all, after years of her own father molesting her, Selena has become frigid, and enjoys being married to a man who has no desire to bed her.

    Have no fear. I didn't have my heart set on what I had in mind for Betty. She doesn't have to have race as an issue for her. It probably would have been too heavy-handed. But I still like the idea of her being Hispanic... perhaps then, her race is never mentioned? The show could probably get away with that. If Betty and her family have been in Peyton Place for a few of generations, then that could mean the residents are used to them and don't think of them in that way. Therefore, race has never been an issue for Betty.

    Also, I wasn't planning on the Miles family to be outcasts. Since they're wealthy(ish), educated and respectable, nobody looks down on them. Heck, I was even going to have Marion Partridge fawn over them - although it would be a "You're a credit to your race" kind of thing, which the Miles' find patronizing. Marion was also going to have a scene where she sees Lew and Selena talking, and jumps to the conclusion that they're in a relationship (this takes place early in the series). She then takes Lew aside, and tells him that he could do better than "that Cross girl"; although she also tells him, "I'm sure there are plenty of nice other girls you could find in one of the other towns." The implication being that, since there are no other black girls in Peyton Place, Lew should look for one somewhere else - and stay away from all the white girls.

    I'd reference Rachel Welles by having that be Allison's pen-name when she writes her book. :D

    Hang on, wasn't Ann Colby Hannah's daughter? Or am I completely bungled up?
     
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  6. Willie Oleson

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    Nice! But I would replace Norman with Paul Hanley. I want Norman to become Betty's stalker.
    I've never seen the movies (and this character) but I'd love to have a "Mrs. Oleson" type on the new show.
    Lovely:)
    Steven and Ann are the children of Catherine Peyton and Hannah's husband.
    After the divorce, the ex-husband left with baby Ann, and Hannah raised Steven as her own son (because she knew her ex-husband would have preferred to have the son).
    All this to protect the reputation of Martin Peyton's cold-hearted daughter. That bitch!

    So now we have the basic outlines, maybe it's time to call some well-known writers. How about the Pollocks, are they still alive?
     
  7. Ked

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    Allow me to look up who this Paul is first:

    "Brother of Elliot's murdered wife Elizabeth and a professor of English at Peyton College who bonds with Allison when she becomes a student in his Freshman English class. He is an enemy of Elliot, because as a child he gave false testimony which sent Elliot to jail for 18 years."

    Meh, I'm not sure I want this character... because I want it revealed that Elliot Carson *did* in fact murder his wife. That's to give Allison a better reason for reacting so badly when she meets her biological father. Not only is he not the man she's imagined her whole life (in fact, I'd have it so that she often speaks to his photo on the mantelpiece; that would happen in the first episode where Allison walks in, calls for her mom but finds she isn't home, and so goes to talk about her day with the photograph. Constance walks in with some groceries, sees what Allison is doing, and voices her concern that her daughter has been doing that too often lately), but he is also a murderer.

    Elliot would tell Constance that he killed his wife just so he could be with her, but Constance informs him, "You're sick."

    Huh. I kinda like that idea. Well hey, he can start off stalking Betty and causes her some trouble before he has a revelation. :lol:

    I had to look her up too. I'm guessing she's from "Little House on the Prairie"? Either way, yes, that's the type of character Marion Partridge would be. As for the movie, you can watch it on youtube:


    Yes, the image has been "disguised", but its not too distracting. And the audio is pretty good. Otherwise you'll have to pay to watch it... unless you can find it for free online somewhere else.

    Thank you. X)

    Oh that's right. And to think, I actually read that last night on wikipedia. :lol: Well, there's so much going on in that one little town... that's why I'm for narrowing the cast down as much as possible.

    (Although I always did find it interesting how much of an influence Catherine Peyton had on the series, despite dying so soon.)

    What basic outlines? I thought we were just brainstorming. :lol: Although I wouldn't mind letting any professional's take over, if they were interested... and actually going to *do* it.

    NO! None of that!

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    And how I'd love to see that anonymous stranger visit Peyton Place! (e.g. as a travelling salesman).
    I know what you're doing here, Ked.
    You want her to marry Dr.Rossi, and then have that marriage being troubled by Rossi's clingy and scheming ex-wife Stella.
    :)
    I think I'd struggle to watch a movie and do a Space Mountain ride at the same time. But thanks anyway:lol:
    Yes, she did it before Jacqueline Perrault, and she ruined many lives. Horrible woman!
     
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    Huh? Oh, did you assume the photo would be of some random dude that Constance picked out? I suppose that would make sense, going with my idea that she wants nothing to do with Elliot Carson.

    Well, first off, I believe I already established I wanted Dr. Rossi and Constance to wed. In my description of how I wanted the series to end, it would be with Dr. Rossi in a jail cell, reassuring his pregnant wife, Constance, that he was going to be fine.

    However, I had completely forgotten that Dr. Rossi ever had a wife. I'm not too familiar with the original show after Allison left. So I really had no intention of making a Blake/Krystle/Alexis triangle with Michael/Constance/Stella. In fact, I wasn't going to have Michael and Constance marry until the end of the 6th season.

    (Real quick, this is how I'd have the seasons:

    Season 1: 1962-1963
    Season 2: 1963-1964
    Season 3: 1964-1965
    Season 4: 1965-1966
    Season 5: 1966-1967
    Season 6: 1967-1968
    Season 7: 1968-1969)

    Stella could still come in around the early to middle seasons and cause trouble, but I'd like to avoid any serious love-triangle stuff between her, Michael and Constance.

    Understandable. :lol: But I hope you're able to watch the movie, it may help you get a better idea of what I had in mind for the new series to be a mashup of the book/movie/TV show.

    Sounds like a character you can do a lot with. :D
     
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    @ABrown ....The best I can think of it is in a way akin to the two separate universes in Star Trek: Discovery (Season 1), which exist apart from each other on different timelines but have 'shared’ some of the same key characters – played by the same actors but as different people (in nature/occupation), albeit some of the counterparts share similar circumstances. These characters live a different life/story arc; but at some point(s) their lives/the story arcs co-mingle when the 2 universes rub shoulders in timelines, and the people meet up with the alternate universe and cross over. Eventually, the universes go their separate ways with endings & new beginnings. (And who knows what next is to come.) The difference is that on Star Trek: Discovery, it all happens within the one series.

    Edited to add: I forgot to say that S2 of Star Trek: Discovery is said to be offering an alternate ending to its S1. I’m looking forward to seeing how that might compare with Dynasty Season 9 as a season of alternate story-telling (which I believe the latter is, but for a different reason than Star Trek: Discovery’s). I've never seen D.S9 as continuing the stories of The Colbys series.
     
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    @Willie Oleson Just in case you're still interested in the subject, I thought a bit more on how I'd do "Peyton Place." This time, I decided to focus on Allison:


    Season 1: When we first see Allison, she is every inch "Alice in Wonderland" - long straight golden-blonde hair with a headband/hair-ribbon, a white short-sleeved blouse, a blue skirt, and Mary Jane shoes. She'd also be holding some books, naturally.

    She holds conversations with a photo of a man on the mantel, whom she identifies as her father. Constance disapproves, but Allison ignores her. Constance also disapproves of Allison's group of friends: shack-dweller Selena Cross, neurotic Norman Page and newly arrived Lew Miles (Constance actually doesn't start out having a problem with Lew; at first she thinks he's a perfectly nice boy and it'd be good for Allison to have more friends like him; but something happens later on that sours Connie's perception of young Lew).

    Allison also has a crush on Rodney Harrington, who is currently dating Betty Anderson. I haven't quite decided what exactly happens there, but Rodney ends up dumping Betty and asking Allison out. She excitedly agrees, but manages to play it cool. The two end up having a pretty good time together. Once again, Constance disapproves, seeing Rodney as a wildly inappropriate match for her innocent daughter.

    Next, former New York socialite Doris Schuster opens a new dress shop, filled with trendy 1960s clothes. Selena Cross eagerly applies for a job and gets it (this means she can finally get some new cloths - nice ones, too). Allison comes by the shop to congratulate Selena, and bumps into Doris' deaf-mute daughter, Kim, who takes an instant liking to Allison. Doris' husband, David, also takes a shine to Allison and suggests she become Kim's babysitter. Allison agrees, while Doris glances suspiciously back and forth between her husband and this pretty young teen.

    After some time of watching David and Kim fawn over Allison, Doris steadily grows bitter towards her. One day, she sees Allison talking with Lew Miles, and, after seeing them hug, gets a spiteful idea. She goes and finds Marion Partridge, the town's notorious gossip, and "offhandedly" remarks about the possibility of Allison and Lew being in a secret romance. Marion spreads the remark like wildfire; both Constance and Lew's mother, Alma, are quick confront their children. Allison and Lew defend themselves, insisting they were never lovers and had no intention to be.

    Betty manages to steal Rodney back by revealing her pregnancy by him. However, she miscarries, and Rodney goes back to Allison.

    Allison begins to take more notice of how bad the lives of Selena and Norman are, though: she witnesses Selena's father, Lucas, hit and then try to beat her, but the presence of Allison and Selena's younger brother, Joey, stop him. As for Norman, he ends up confiding in Allison just how possessive his mother is, and how nervous he gets around girls.

    Allison also wants to make amends with Betty, and invites her to her birthday party. Constance yet again disapproves of this decision, as she has never liked Betty's sexual reputation. But Allison insists on inviting Betty, who shows up with Lew as her date. Rodney pours liquor into the punch bowl, and then starts a game of "photograph" by turning out all the lights and passionately kissing Allison. Constance comes in and creates a scene, ordering every teen out of her house. She and Allison have a big fight that results in Constance slapping Allison.

    Not long after, Allison experiences another slap: while out on a walk with Norman, the subject of kissing comes up. Norman again talks about how awkward and scared he is about such things... and how wildly curious. Allison decides to give Norman a kiss to help him overcome his shyness (though she's quick to point out beforehand she doesn't want to become lovers with him; she's still in love with Rodney; Norman will have to find his own girl to have more kisses with).

    Unfortunately, they were being followed by Norman's mother, Evelyn, who separates them, slaps Allison, and drags Norman home.

    Allison tells Rodney about her kissing Norman; Rodney finds the news amusing and says she probably did Norman some good. He does take offense to Evelyn Page slapping his girlfriend, though, and even wishes Mrs. Page were a man so he, Rodney, could slug him.

    Evelyn Page is quick to spread word that Allison Mackenzie is new hussy in town, and Doris Schuster decides Allison isn't good to have around her house anymore. Kim takes the news badly, but David reluctantly agrees with his wife. Allison is heartbroken at not getting to spend time with Kim, but she soon gets a job at the local newspaper thanks to Matthew Swain, whom Allison calls "Uncle Matt" despite him being her mother's cousin.

    The comes the prom. Rodney and Allison attend as each other's date, but Rodney starts to get jealous when he sees Betty dancing with every available guy in the room. This results in a petty argument with Allison, and the two decide to break up. Allison then finds Norman skulking in a corner, and orders him to dance with her. He does so, albeit clumsily.

    [Selena's father, Lucas, leaves town.]

    In the season finale, during the town's 4th of July picnic, Allison and Norman go for a swim at the lake; Marion Partridge spotted them going that way. Meanwhile, Rodney and Betty end up at the same lake, and go skinny dipping. Marion's husband, Charles, saw the nude pair but didn't see their faces. He mentions this to his wife, and Marion instantly assumes it was Allison and Norman, and wastes no time in phoning as many people as she can.

    When Allison returns home for the evening, Constance descends upon her in a rage. Allison holds her own and insists she was never naked with Norman, that the rumor is nothing but a lie. And just as she's on the verge of convincing her mother that that is the truth...

    ...Evelyn Page storms in, announcing that Norman admitted to having sex with Allison (in actuality, Evelyn forced her son to "admit" to that). She warns Allison to never again come near her son, and Constance angrily orders Evelyn to leave her house. Once Mrs. Page is gone, though, Constance turns on her daughter, accusing her of lying all along. Things become so wildly heated that Constance calls Allison a bastard, and reveals she never married Allison's father.

    Stunned, it is Allison's turn to call Connie a liar and races upstairs...

    ...only to scream at the sight of Nellie Cross having hung herself in Allison's bedroom closet.


    Season 2: Allison is in shock from both learning she is illegitimate and seeing Nellie's dead body, and has to be hospitalized for a while. She gets over it just so she can be there for Selena. But things are tense between Allison and Constance. The former ends up confiding in "Uncle Matt" that, once she graduates this year, she'll be leaving for New York. Matthew warns Constance to try and reconcile with her daughter, or she might lose her forever.

    Meanwhile, Elliot Carson comes to town and gets a job at the newspaper - right alongside Allison. He starts a rapport with her, and later goes to the bookstore where Constance works. She is thunderstruck by his arrival and orders him to stay away from Allison. Elliot waves the order aside, pointing out he can't quit his new job so soon.

    Elliot continues to grow close to Allison, who rather enjoys talking with him. He makes a good replacement for Rodney and Norman, who have been avoiding her.

    Constance is very worried about Allison, and tries to warn her daughter away from Elliot, but Allison spurns her mother's advice. Eventually, Constance confides in Matthew who Elliot Carson really is: he's Allison's biological father... and that he murdered his own wife when he found out Constance was pregnant with his child. He had been found out and arrested, serving all these years in prison.

    Matthew agrees Allison must be kept away from Elliot, but is unsure how to proceed, as Elliot could very well be a dangerous man.

    Meanwhile, Rodney comes back into Allison's life, asking if she wants to give things another go. Allison says she's not sure, and ends up asking Elliot for advice. Elliot decides his daughter could do better, and goes to tell Rodney to stay away from her. Rodney, having no idea who this man is, tells him to mind his own business.

    Elliot doesn't take kindly to this.

    Later on, one evening, Rodney is out walking - and gets hit by a car. The driver doesn't pull over, but speeds away. Rodney is found and brought in to the hospital, where he recovers, but has to go around in a wheelchair for a while.

    The news does bring Allison to Rodney's side, however. Something Elliot disapproves of.

    Elliot also ends up disapproving when he starts to notice how close Constance seems to be getting with Principal Kyros.

    Not long after, Principal Tomas Kyros is found dead - murdered.

    Amid the resulting frenzy of the whole town wondering and gossiping while the police investigate, a terrified Constance confronts Elliot, hoping that it was not him. He doesn't admit to anything, aside from saying he's glad "that man" is out of the way of him and Constance getting back together.

    Her fears confirmed, Constance next worries that Elliot will go after Michael Rossi, her other potential love interest, next. She warns the doctor to never go anywhere alone, to always watch his back and be careful of anyone he doesn't already know. Michael is suspicious of such warnings, but Connie insists she's just paranoid about the recent murder.

    Meanwhile, Allison discovers that Elliot Carson is her father (I haven't decided how yet). At first, she doesn't take it so well... but after thinking things over, she decides he's actually surprisingly close to how she imagined her father to be. She welcomes Elliot into her life with open arms and even encourages Constance to get back together with him ("After all, he's not married anymore. His wife passed away some time ago, did you know?").

    Constance is too afraid of what it'll do to Allison if she finds out what a monster her father really is, and simply says she's not in love with him anymore. But this only causes more tension between mother and daughter. Constance is forced to come clean and tell Allison not only the truth about Elliot's late wife, but also her suspicions that Elliot murdered Principal Kyros. And possibly had something to do with Rodney's accident.

    Stunned, Allison refuses to believe it... and yet...

    Eventually, what Connie fears will happen occurs: Elliot gets the impression that there's something going on between her and Michael, tries to murder the doctor. He sets a trap for him at his beach house, but Constance gets wind of Elliot's plan and races over.

    Allison follows, desperately hoping that she might catch her mother in a lie or something. Constance saves Michael, but he's badly injured. Elliot appears and becomes violent with Constance. Allison arrives and sees the fight. She grabs a knife and stabs Elliot, killing him (this is a reference to how Lana Turner's daughter killed her mother's abusive boyfriend, which resulted in a trial held during the original movie's run - which helped a lot with its publicity).

    Once again, Allison goes into shock once she realizes what she's done, and must be hospitalized. Constance gets Michael to testify that it was Constance herself who killed Elliot (in self defense, of course), fearing how the citizens of Peyton Place would view Allison if they knew. She also leaves out that she and Elliot knew each other beforehand, saying only that he recently became obsessed with her. The police buy Connie's story and no charges are pressed.

    But Allison becomes disgusted with how many lies her mother has told; disgusted with how all her dreams have been shattered; disgusted by all of Peyton Place; and in a horrendous fit, viciously cuts her own hair.

    Allison becomes withdrawn from her friends and family, until one night, she takes a shower (symbolically cleansing herself of Peyton Place), puts on new clothes she recently bought from the dress shop, places all the money she has into her purse, and goes walking around the town, stopping at various places and remembering old moments, just like Mia Farrow's last episode.

    Meanwhile, Rodney has bought a ring, and is preparing to propose to Allison. The last line he speaks this season is, "Allison Mackenzie, will you marry me?" But Allison remains unaware of this as she goes for her evening stroll. Finally, she makes it to the outskirts of town, takes one last look over her shoulder, before continuing onward.


    Season 3: Everyone searches wildly for Allison, but she can't be found. Accusations fly and theories are shared, but nothing can be done. Allison Mackenzie is gone.

    Around Christmas, Selena Cross and her little brother Joey, in their neatly fixed-up home, are happily decorating their tree, when a drunk Lucas comes in, wearing a Navy uniform. He quickly becomes violent and lecherous, and Selena beats him to death with a pair of fireplace tongs.

    Sometime later, close to the season finale, Constance is buying a new outfit at the dress shop, being assisted by Selena. Just then, Naval Officers come in (they open the door for Marion Partridge to enter first, but she steps into another section of the store and isn't noticed by Connie or Selena) and question Selena about the whereabouts of Lucas.

    Selena says she knows nothing, but after the officers leave, she breaks down and hurries into the back room. Constance follows and tries to console her, but Selena lets it out what truly happened: that she killed Lucas and buried him under the sheep pen. Marion, who had quietly stepped up to the door, overhears everything, and just as quietly scurries away before Constance comes to check to see if there's anybody else in the shop, before closing the door behind her. While Constance tells Selena to keep things quiet, Marion phones her husband, the district attorney.

    Its not long before Selena is arrested and Marion has the town viciously gossiping about her - and about Constance too (Marion correctly deduced Connie instructed Selena not to say anything). Ted Carter breaks up with Selena, saying being attached to a murderess would ruin his chances at becoming a lawyer. Michael, Matthew and Harry gather to discuss the possibility of revealing the truth about Lucas, except that could potentially ruin Selena for the rest of her life.

    The trial takes place, and both Joey and Selena each take the stand. Then a third witness is called forth:

    Allison Mackenzie.

    In the crowd, a woman wearing a hat, scarf, sunglasses and coat stands up. She takes off these things to reveal that she is indeed, Allison Mackenzie (and her hair is as short as it was during last season's finale; plus her wardrobe is a lot more flashy and trendy than how it was in the last two seasons). She steps up to the stand amid a flurry of whispers, each one wondering where she's been all year.

    [When Allison is sworn in, she says, "I do." This is her first line in Season 3. This is meant to make fans speculate that this is a sign that she and Rodney will marry, as his final line in Season 2 was practicing his proposal to her.]

    Allison testifies that she knew Lucas Cross abused Selena, having seen him beat her (she gives more self-assured testimony than her movie-counterpart did) and even states she noticed bruises on Selena from time to time.

    In response to Allison saying she say Lucas slap Selena, the prosecutor asks her if she herself has ever been slapped. Allison says yes: by her mother, by Evelyn Page, and by Lucas Cross himself. She goes on to say that one time, she stopped by the Cross' shack to meet up with Selena, but she wasn't there. Just a drunk Lucas who became angry, started accusing Allison of making Selena think she was better than him, and even started saying other things that didn't make sense, and slapped Alison, who made her escape when Lucas tripped on something.

    Of course, Allison is lying, but she's trying to help Selena by painting Lucas as a consisently abusive man. The prosecutor takes note that nobody else was around when Lucas allegedly slapped her, though. Allison remains cool, though, and says she never told anyone about it because she was too young, too afraid and too stupid.

    Constance is called to the stand next, and asked if her daughter ever brought her troubles home. Constance ends up having a breakdown, and a recess is held.

    Several people try to get close to Allison to ask her where she's been, but Allison only has time for Selena, who of course also wants to know where she's been. Allison reveals she went through with her desire to go to New York. While there, she roomed with an actress named Stephanie Wallace, who knew somebody who worked for a magazine, and that was how Allison got her first job there.

    Meanwhile, Matthew Swain, Michael Rossi and Harry Miles all gather to discuss whether they should reveal that Lucas raped and impregnated his daughter, but they know doing that would ruin Selena's life. They decide to follow Allison's example and make statements that they too noticed Selena was being abused, and that it was they who drove Lucas out of town to get him away from her.

    With all this evidence, Selena is acquitted, much to the anger of Marion Partridge. But everyone else is relieved and glad for Selena.

    Rodney goes up to Allison with the wedding ring in his pocket... but then a man steps up next to Allison. She introduces him as Lewis Jackman, a publisher in New York City... and her boyfriend. Rodney congratulates them and sadly walks away.

    Constance manages to corner Allison, but only tell her how relieved she is to finally know where her daughter is. She also comments on Lewis, saying how he seems like a nice man... only for Allison to come out and say that he's already married.

    "Like mother, like daughter."


    Season 4: I only have a general idea for what happens here, but Lewis ends up telling Allison he wants to divorce his wife so he can be with her... only he dies in a car crash. Not long after, Allison is confronted by Lewis' widow, who reveals herself to be pregnant. She wants to know if Lewis had really fallen in love with Allison, but the latter lies and says Lewis had just broken up with her before the accident. This comforts Mrs. Jackman, and she leaves peacefully.


    So there. What do you think?
     
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    In addressing the original question that CW could possibly "spin-off" more classic shows, I'd have to say I wouldn't mind seeing a rebooted Falcon Crest. I've yet to finish the original (I'm finishing one show at a time), but I would like to see what CW would do with it. If it didn't work, guess what? I didn't work and I'll still have the original to enjoy.

    I think CW would be a good one to redo Paper Dolls, even though I've never seen the original. Imagine a cast of would-be prime time beauties and heartthrobs trying to make their way in New York's uptown fashion industry. That sounds a lot like, well, the original show, doesn't it? Of course, and it isn't like casting producers wouldn't have a host of pretty faces to choose from these days.
     
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    I want a fictional talk show for Sammy Jo and then he should become more popular than Ellen.
    His first guest would be Fallon, I suppose.
     
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    Or Blake could give Steven and Sammy Jo a big ship for their wedding and then their spin-off would be THE DREAMBOAT.
    Guest star Alexis would secretly try to use their boat to smuggle East-European aspirant Uber-guys into the country. For lots of money, of course.
     
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    Hmmm. It sounds (and looks) promising...

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    Doctor "Doc" Nick Toscanni

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    "My ear hurts".
    -"Alright, take off your clothes and I'll have a look"
     
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    But he was a psychiatrist ! Well, until Fallon went into labour...:D
     
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    No problem!

    "I'm feeling so unhappy!"
    -Alright, take off your clothes and tell me about it"
     
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