Could CW Dynasty spin-off into something else?

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  1. Ked

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    @Willie Oleson If you're still interested in hearing about this, I ended up thinking of some "Alice in Wonderland" motifs I'd have for "Peyton Place." Because Allison is often associated with Alice, I started wondering if any of the other characters could be associated with the same story. I did end up thinking stuff for the female characters, at least:

    Marion Partridge, since she's the most antagonistic of the female characters, has an intense hatred for Allison, and holds a position of power in town (being both on the school-board and the wife of the district attorney), I figured she could be associated with the Queen of Hearts. Such as, she'd wear jewelry/accessories/clothing that have a heart shape/pattern, has a red rose garden, and maybe at one time, while she's in Doris Schuster's dress shop, is looking over a dress with white roses, and demands that she be given one with *red* roses instead. And while she never yells, "Off with their heads!" her vicious, angry gossiping could be seen as an equivalent.

    Hannah Cord, since I'd have her remain a redhead, would be the Red Queen. While she'd be counted as an antagonist/villain, she's still nicer than Marion (the Red Queen in the books actually was nicer than the Queen of Hearts). She's also more dignified, and as the housekeeper/assistant/possible-secret-lover to the most powerful man in town, she too has her own influence over Peyton Place. Also, during moments where Hannah does something of particular interest, she'll be wearing red.

    Alma Miles would be the White Queen. While she's not fat, pale, stupid or childish like the queen in the book, Alma is kind, eccentric (intentionally quoting the character: "I believe up to 20 impossible things everyday!"), quick to protect her child, and often wears white: a white apron, a white blouse, or a white evening gown. And since she ends up on the school-board, and is the wife of the town's neurosurgeon, also holds some influence over the town.

    Betty Anderson would be the Cheshire Cat. :lol: She'd randomly appear up in trees, grinning mischievously, and will be either helpful or antagonistic towards Allison, depending on the situation... or whatever mood Betty is in.


    Constance and Selena are the only two main female characters left, and I couldn't really think of any Wonderland counterpart for them... aside from one of them being seen as "Alice's Sister." Being Alice's Sister would mean that, while they do have a connection to Allison, they're more of a tie to reality for her. Like, Constance usually wakes her daughter out of her daydreaming, or Selena will remind her friend of what's going on in the "real" world.
     
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    More "Wonderland" motifs for the ladies:

    Marion plays bridge (a *card* game) with her "gossip group", whereas Hannah and Alma play chess with Martin and Harry, respectively (the chess pieces Martin Peyton owns are black and red - Hannah always plays red; whereas the one the Miles' own is black and white, and Alma always plays white).

    At some time, Allison challenges Marion to a game of poker, and wins (Marion's hand was a straight heart flush; Allison's was a royal diamond flush). When Hannah becomes threatened by Betty possibly replacing her, the two sit and play chess (Betty taking Martin's usual seat and playing black). Hannah smugly wins.

    Perhaps there's even a time where Hannah and Alma end up playing chess - and by some coincidence, each already brought their own chess sets, so they're able to play their signature color. This time its Alma who wins.
     
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    @Willie Oleson If you ever get tired of me talking to you about all this, feel free to tell me so, and I'll stop. But until then, here's more details for how I'd do a new "Peyton Place":


    All the major deaths that occur:

    Season 1 - Catherine Harrington, Nellie Cross
    Season 2 - Tomas Kyros, Elliot Carson
    Season 3 - Lucas Cross
    Season 4 - Evelyn Page, Ann Howard
    Season 5 - Leslie Harrington
    Season 6 - Matthew Swain
    Season 7 - Martin Peyton, Roberta Carter, Marion Partridge

    Also, Dr. Rossi has a dream in the final season (after all of these deaths have taken place) where he's sitting at the long table in the dining room at Peyton Manor. At the head of the table is Martin Peyton himself, and all the other characters on this list (except for Matthew). All look ghostly and ghoulish as they smile evilly at Dr. Rossi and raise their glasses in a toast to him. Rossi then looks back at where Martin is sitting, only to see that he's transformed into Matthew, who looks sadly back at him and asks, "Why couldn't you save us?"

    Dr. Rossi awakens from his nightmare... and within the same episode, he is accused of murder, and put in a cell.

    ~~~

    How I'd end each season:

    Season 1: Of course, you may recall I'd end this year with Allison finding out that she is a bastard... right before finding Nellie hanging by the neck in Allison's bedroom closet (first we'd get a view of the floor, with the photograph of Allison's "father" shattered on the floor, a metaphor for a plethora of things; then the camera pans up to Allison as Connie comes running in; before turning and giving the audience a full view of Nellie's body; and then turning to black)

    Season 2: Basically it'd be just like how Mia Farrow exited the original show, only Allison doesn't walk out of the hospital. Instead, she starts off in her bedroom, where she goes into the bathroom and takes a shower, symbolically washing herself of Peyton Place. Next, she puts on new clothes she bought from the dress shop, symbolically taking on a new identity. Then she goes walking around town at night, remembering all the moments where her life got ruined. She peeks in on Rodney, not knowing that he's practicing on proposing to her, and then walks down the road that leads out of town. She takes one final look back, before continuing on.

    Season 3: I'm actually not sure what kind of cliffhanger I'd end this year on, mostly because I decided Selena's trial would end on a positive note with her being acquitted (though its clear Marion Partridge is *not* happy, and is going to do something about it).

    Season 4: This season's cliffhanger was actually inspired by you, willie. It ends in the summertime, where the residents of Peyton Place are enjoying a new amusement park built by the Harrington's money... only for a lethal accident to occur. Basically, this is meant to be the show's Moldavian Massacre - albeit with a better payoff. Hopefully, anyway. :lol:

    Season 5: Rodney, reeling from having lost both his parents and disgusted by all the pressure his grandfather has put on him, decides to leave Peyton Place for college. The final scene is modeled after the one from the movie, where Allison leaves town and Selena begs her not to go; only its Allison who comes running up as Rodney is leaving. However, she does not try to convince him to stay, but instead encourages him. He needs to leave and be on his own for a while ("It worked for me, it might work for you!"), but she does remind him that there are still a lot of people in Peyton Place who love him, and will be waiting for his return. Rodney drives off while a sad-eyed Allison waves good-bye, even running a little after him, just to keep him in sight a few seconds longer...

    Season 6: Much like the 3rd season, I'm not sure what kind of cliffhanger I want to end this on yet.

    Season 7: I've already talked about this; that Michael Rossi is standing in his jail cell, reassuring his pregnant wife, Constance, that he's going to be fine, that they'll pull through all this. She smiles and walks away, with the camera facing her, Michael still visible over her shoulder. The further Constance goes, however, the more her smile begins to slip... and then she's out of frame, with only the small figure of Dr. Rossi behind bars onscreen. Then we cut to Rodney and Allison strolling through town, going from place to place, looking like they're reenacting the Season 2 cliffhanger - only minus the voice-overs. Not a word is spoken between them, yet they hold hands throughout the whole scene. They end up at the train station, where they watch new families arrive... and old families leave. The camera is now on the train, which begins to depart. We hear Allison's voice, "Thank you for visiting Peyton Place. Good-bye."

    ~~~

    Also, I know I already talked about how I'd do Allison's overall storyline for the series (or at least the first three seasons), but I ended up thinking how I'd write Selena:

    Season 1 - In the pilot episode, her older brother, Paul, leaves town, angry over their father stealing his son's wages again. Later on, Selena gets a job at Doris Schuster's new dress shop - not just to help her family, but also to provide herself with the chance of getting to dress better. She does end up getting to do just that, and starts gaining more attention from boys... especially Ted Carter. Only they must keep their romance a secret, since I still intend for Selena to be black in this version.

    Meanwhile, Selena's father, Lucas, tries pulling on his daughter what he did with Paul: he tries taking her wages from her so he can buy liquor. Selena ends up having to hide her money so she can properly save up. Lucas seems to resent his daughter's attempts at improving herself, and at one point hits her while a shocked Allison watches from the window.

    At Allison's 17th birthday, Rodney turns out all the lights so everyone can couple up and make out. In the dark, Selena receives a passionate kiss from Ted. After that, Selena attends the prom with Lew Miles as her date, but she ends up dancing the night away with Ted, who walks her home. Once she enters the shack, a drunk Lucas attacks her... and rapes her.

    Later on, Selena faints in front of Matthew Swain, who takes her to Dr. Rossi. Selena explains her symptoms to him... and he tells her she's pregnant. She begs for an abortion. At first he won't do it... until she reveals that the baby's father is also its grandfather. Dr. Rossi performs the abortion - although he has never done one and has to take Harry Miles into his confidence for help. Afterwards, Michael, Matthew and Harry all go over to the Cross shack and corner Lucas. They get him to sign a confession and then run him out of town, with Harry telling him that if he, Lucas, ever comes back, then he, Harry, will personally lead a lynch mob on him.

    What the men don't realize is that Nellie overheard everything. The shock sends her into a dazed depression, and in the season finale, while Selena is enjoying the 4th of July picnic with Ted, Nellie hangs herself.

    Season 2 - With both her parents gone, Selena takes full care of her younger brother, Joey. Of course, first she must lay her mother's body to rest, although at first she can't find a church that will bury Nellie, on account of her committing suicide. Constance helps her out, and eventually Nellie is given a proper burial.

    Once that is over, things begin to change for the two Cross children. While this is the year where Allison's life spirals out of control, Selena blossoms. She no longer has to hide her wages, there's no more drunken Lucas to drag the family down, and there's the kindness of Selena's friends to help her fix the shack up to make it a more proper home.

    Then of course there's Ted wanting to make his relationship with Selena public, despite his parents' disapproval. They threaten to not pay for his going to law school if he continues to see Selena, who encourages him to just give in. But Ted tells her once he's finished with school, his parents won't have any say in who he marries.

    Graduation comes, and Selena becomes a full-time worker at the dress shop.

    Season 3 - Selena helps out in the search for Allison, but nobody can find her. For a while, Selena spends her time taking care of Joey, working in the dress shop, helping out Constance...

    ...until Christmas Eve comes, bringing with it none other than Lucas Cross. He barges into the shack-turned-house, drunk as usual... and quickly turns violent. And lecherous. Selena ends up beating him to death with fire tongs.

    For a while, Selena stews quietly in guilty paranoia, until finally, around Easter, two Naval officers come into the shop, looking for Lucas. Selena manages to keep cool, but once they're gone, she breaks down and runs into the back room. Constance goes after her and tries to comfort her. Selena blurts out the truth, that she killed Lucas and buried him under the sheep pin. Constance promises she will keep Selena's secret. Unbeknownst to them, Marion Partridge was also in the shop and overheard everything. She sneaks out and phones her husband, the district attorney.

    Selena is arrested and put on trial, but thanks to the testimony from a returned Allison, Constance, Elsie Thorton (Selena and Allison's old teacher who became the school's new principal), Harry, Michael and Matthew, Selena is acquitted.

    Unfortunately, during this whole matter, Ted Carter returns to ask Selena if what his mother wrote him is all true. Selena confesses she did indeed kill her father - and Ted immediately breaks up with her. It doesn't matter to him if she killed Lucas in defense or not; he believes a man of his standing shouldn't be involved with a murderess. He leaves town again, and doesn't return until several seasons later.

    Also, Marion Partridge is furious over the trial's outcome (she fondly remembered Lucas for building her kitchen shelves; she seemed to find his death to be an attack on her; plus she already hated Selena for being younger and prettier than Marion). She decides she's going to make Selena pay one way or another.

    Season 4 - Marion succeeds in passing a zoning law that will force Selena and Joey out of their house. At the same time, Marion also manages to blackmail Doris Schuster into firing Selena (perhaps something about making certain that nobody buys a dress from a "murderess").

    Jobless, homeless, with an 11-year-old boy to take care of, Selena is in shock about what to do next... and quite by accident, discovers that Lew Miles and Norman Page are gay lovers.

    Immediately, Selena blackmails Lew into marrying her so she can support Joey with the Miles family fortune. Lew is angry at first, but then he realizes Selena makes the perfect beard: shes perfectly willing to put up a front, but makes absolutely no demands on him in the bedroom. In fact, Selena even becomes curious and gets both Lew and Norman to confide in her.

    Marion Partridge is angrier than ever that she didn't succeed in running "that Cross bitch" out of town. She starts viciously gossiping about Selena, but Alma, although she is suspicious of her son's sudden marriage, isn't about to have her own daughter-in-law be talked about. Thus begins a small war between Marion and Alma. The latter ends up winning.

    In the season finale, Selena gets caught in the carnival accident. Her fate is left unknown...

    Season 5 - ...until its revealed that she's still alive. But she also lost an arm. (This detail was inspired by something that I read happened in the original books - not to Selena but to another girl. I decided to have it happen to a character that's been around since the beginning.)

    Selena must now adjust to having only one arm (Marion Partridge is cruelly pleased about this; she believes Selena has finally been "punished"). She even ends up getting a hook-hand. At first Selena feels embarrassed and ashamed by her appearance, but her friends and family help her through this.

    One day, Joey comes home and announces that his school is putting on a play, "Peter Pan", and would Selena help him rehearse? He wants the part of Peter, even though he was told by some of the other kids "Peter isn't black." Selena encourages him, and even auditions with him. The teacher mistakenly believes that Selena is auditioning for the part of Captain Hook, and casts her. At first Selena says no, but everyone else convinces her to do it.

    Selena ends up playing both the part of Mrs. Darling and of Hook (I read that originally, Jim Barrie wanted the same actor who played Mrs. Darling to also play Captain Hook). She receives a standing ovation for her performance.

    (It should be noted that during the production of the play, Selena meets an itinerant actor named Tim Randlett.)

    Season 6 - Selena's older brother, Paul, comes back to Peyton Place. At first, Selena is angry at him (even going so far as to slap him - with her non-hook hand, that is), but eventually gets over her hurt feelings. After all, it wasn't Paul's fault for everything bad that happened to her. And even if he had stuck around, who's to say things would have been better? But I'm also planning for Paul to have his own story that affects Selena... except I'm not sure what that is yet.

    Selena also is becoming dissatisfied with her marriage to Lew. Even though she loves him as a friend, she's growing tired of being his beard. She's also growing more and more close to Tim... and starts having an affair with him. That is, an emotional affair. Selena is still haunted by memories of her father, and jaded by Ted leaving her. So she can't bring herself to have sex with Tim, who tries to cope and help her. But things get too heavy for him, and he ends up leaving as well.

    But this does get Selena to realize that she wants a real relationship, a real marriage.

    [I'm also considering having it so that Selena's hook-hand is the weapon that's used to kill Matthew Swain. Fortunately, Selena not only has an alibi, but she had already reported that her fake arm had been stolen. Only problem is I can't figure out why somebody would go through the trouble of stealing a fake hook-hand to use as a murder weapon... not unless the murderer was Paul Cross, or an acquaintance of his, and they used the arm totally out of improv.]

    Season 7 - Selena has a heart-to-heart with Lew, and the two decide to end their sham-marriage... eventually. First, Selena must get a job and a house, as she is still responsible for Joey. She manages to get her old job at the dress shop back (Doris decides to hell with Marion Partridge; Selena was her best worker and she wants her back!) and starts saving up. Within time, she has enough to get a new place for her and Joey to live in, and she and Lew begin divorce proceedings.

    Peter Drake, the lawyer who defended Selena back in Season 3, finds out about her divorce, and confesses he had fallen for her during that time; but kept it to himself as it was wildly inappropriate. Only to be deeply disappointed once he heard she got married so soon afterwards. Sensing that this could lead somewhere, Selena agrees to go out with Peter (Joey is quick to point out how he once played a Peter).

    With her old job back and a new man in her life, things are starting to look good for Selena...

    ...but then Ted Carter comes back into town.

    He's gotten married to a snobby blueblood by the name of Jennifer Burbank. Even though Ted acts proud to be married to her, he privately confesses to Selena that he's unhappy, and that he still wants her.

    Taken aback, Selena doesn't know what to do at first. But then we get a scene that was inspired by the 1950s movie: Ted gets Selena in his car and starts telling her that, even with one arm, she's still the most beautiful girl he's ever known. He gets cozy with her, and she starts asking him how much does he want her. "You wanna make love to me?" she asks in a husky whisper.

    Ted starts to lay her down, nuzzling her neck... and BAM! she hits him with her hook-hand (no, she doesn't stab him; just whacks him with the side of it) and gets out of the car, saying, "Now go make love to Mrs. Ted Carter! I've already got a man - a REAL man! And even if I didn't, I'd still be too good for the likes of you!" and storms off, head held high.

    [Ted broke up with Selena for being a murderess. His new wife ends up murdering his mother. Talk about irony.]

    Selena ends up marrying Peter Drake. Her final scene is her bravely going into their new bedroom with him, and closing the door behind her.
     
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    It will take some time to read (and visualize) everything, but please don't stop:)
     
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    I know this is adding to your reading list, but I wanted to mention this before I forget... plus there's really more looking required than actual reading.

    This past week, my family and I were vacationing in Disneyland, and I suddenly got the idea to model the sets for Peyton Place after various areas of the park. Such as...



    Main Street USA

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    New Orleans Square (I'd even base Peyton Manor on the Haunted Mansion)

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    and Pacific Wharf in California Adventure.
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    (In season 4, Leslie Harrington builds an amusement park for the town to attract more tourists; only something goes wrong - either a negligent accident, or intentional sabotage, I haven't decided yet - which causes a catastrophic accident. Having the amusement park be situated just outside of town would mean we could have such a big disaster without having to sacrifice any of the sets.)
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    Hey, that was my idea!:D
     
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    Oh yes, I remembered. :) I mentioned in one of my previous posts, in the section discussing how I'd end each season, that the Season 4 cliffhanger was inspired by your idea. :D
     
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    I hope you were able to read more of my previous posts... because I thought up more stuff for continuing Allison's story:

    Season 4: She gets a full-time job at the Peyton Place Newspaper (she had worked for it part-time back in Seasons 1 and 2) and moves in with Selena and Joey. Then the incident with her married lover, Lewis Jackman, dying in a car crash happens. Allison is confronted by Lewis' pregnant wife, but Allison lies and says Lewis had broken things off with her, and had intended to reconcile with his wife. Comforted, Mrs. Jackman goes back to her home in New York.

    Rodney tries to propose to Allison, but she, figuring out what he intends to do, quickly makes it clear that she only wants to be friends with him. Rodney is put out, but pretends to shrug things off. Selena is irritated with Allison, but the latter confesses she's far too afraid that things won't work out between her and Rodney, and she couldn't stand it if he ended up not loving her anymore. Selena, having been abandoned by Ted during her trial, emphasizes.

    When Marion Partridge succeeds in passing the zoning law that forces Selena and Joey out of their house, Selena has a quickie-marriage to Lew Miles and moves in with him. Knowing she couldn't possibly impose and that she must live *somewhere*, Allison asks her mother if she may move back in for a while. Constance welcomes her daughter with open arms.

    Not long after, Allison becomes involved with blind Chris Webber. Rodney is jealous, but that doesn't stop him from helping Chris out when the latter gets into trouble (though I don't know yet what the trouble will be). Even though Allison made it clear from the start that she wanted to keep things casual, Chris develops deeper feelings for her anyway, and proposes. She turns him down, insisting she just didn't want to get married. Stung, Chris lashes out and tells Allison that she's incapable of love...

    ...but Selena points out that if that were true, Allison never would have returned to Peyton Place to help her.

    Next comes the infamous incident where Allison, walking along the beach, discovers the dead body of Ann Howard on the bluffs. She is forced to enter Dr. Rossi's beach house (the very house where, back in Season 2, Allison stabbed her father to death) in order to phone Matthew Swain, who tells her to stay put while he calls the police. Dr. Rossi comes in and finds Allison in a state: seeing Ann dead and being back where she killed Elliot takes its toll on her.

    Allison refuses to be hospitalized over this, however. She's sick of going there every time she has a shock. She even tries to force the incident behind her and ignore it. Even when she has a nightmare about Ann, Elliot, Lewis and Nellie Cross. This results in Allison starting to sleepwalk.

    She ends up walking through the town in the middle of the night, and wanders into the woods, and comes across the house of Jack Chandler... who is murdering his wife. Once he's finished, he looks up and sees Allison staring in at him through the window. He rushes out and is about to attack her... except he notices that she continues to stare through the window, completely oblivious to him. Unnerved, Jack begins backing away, wondering if Allison is even real... but when she turns and starts walking away, Jack goes after her. He follows her all the way back to her house, which has the front door wide open.

    After waiting a few more moments, Jack races back home and covers up the murder, hiding his wife's body. He returns to the MacKenzie house the next day to inquire if "the sleepwalking young lady" was alright. Constance and Allison are shocked by this - although they quickly realize it must be true, since Allison had been complaining earlier about feeling exhausted despite sleeping all night.

    Constance uses this to finally convince Allison to go into therapy. Meanwhile, Jack begins stalking her, paranoid that she might end up remembering seeing him killing his wife.

    The therapy does end up working for Allison, who goes through the usual "falling for the shrink" deal, but said shrink is professional and gets her to realize its all just transference. (The reason I'm not having the therapist fall for Allison is that, already, a lot of men have fallen for her, or have become obsessed with her. Perhaps the therapist ends up meeting Betty through Allison, and has an affair with her?)

    In the season finale, Allison attends the opening of the new Harrington Amusement Park. She meets up with both Rodney and Chris, while Jack Chandler continues to watch her from afar. And when the fatal accident occurs, Allison, along with Rodney and Chris, are trapped beneath a load of debris. The season ends with Costance screaming the names of Allison, Michael, Selena and Joey.


    Season 5: Allison awakens to darkness, but soon is able to make out Rodney and Chris on either side of her. She holds both of their hands as they wait to be dug out. Chris suddenly tells her, "I can see you. ...I can see you now!" ...before dying from his wounds. Allison lets go of his hand and clings to Rodney.

    Allison is the first one to be pulled from the wreckage. As she's being laid on a stretcher, she tells her mother that Chris is dead, and Rodney is still in there. Its only a little while longer before Rodney and Chris' body are pulled out as well.

    At the hospital, Allison is told one of her legs is broken, while the other is sprained. Rodney has a broken leg as well, and a broken arm. Both must be put in wheelchairs, but they're also told that they should both heal and be walking again in time.

    There are others who suffered some injuries: Lew Miles has a broken leg, but he's able to get around with a pair of crutches. He's told he'll make a full recovery too. Betty Anderson is the least injured, having no broken bones and only a few cuts that only need bandages. Things are much more grim for Norman Page, who has lost an eye and must now wear an eyepatch, and for Selena Cross, who has lost her arm and gets a hook-hand. (There are other characters who have died, but they're all minor/recurring characters. One of them I'm thinking is Eli Carter, who is based off Eli Carson from the original TV series.)

    Jack Chandler continues stalking Allison, daring to get even closer now that she can't get away from him as fast.

    Then comes an incident that shakes the town harder than the carnival accident: Leslie Harrington is found murdered. And the suspects are endless (especially since a lot of people blamed Leslie for the accident that took the lives and limbs of several townsfolk).

    Rodney is distraught, and Allison, along with all their friends, do their best to comfort him, even declaring they won't rest until they find out who the murderer is. Rodney himself declares he intends to kill whoever murdered his father.

    As the investigation goes on, Allison does as much snooping around as she can in her condition, going over as many clues and pieces of evidence she can find... and eventually...

    ...she ends up remembering seeing Jack Chandler murdering his wife... only she remembers it right when she's alone with him, at the newspaper. He has a gun, and he forces her to write out a letter saying that she's leaving Peyton Place again. Jack then forces Allison to wheel herself outside with him following, threatening to shoot her and anyone else nearby if she makes a sound.

    Jack brings Allison back to his house, and prepares to murder her... only for Norman to burst in and tackle Jack. The gun falls to the floor as both men wrestle, and Allison throws herself out of her wheelchair to seize the gun. She fires a shot but doesn't hit anyone - it wasn't her intention to. It was to get Jack to freeze and order him into a corner. Norman calls the police, and Jack is arrested.

    The remainder of the season focuses on finding who murdered Leslie Harrington. Allison and Rodney eventually are able to get out of their wheelchairs, and Lew is able to set aside his crutches.

    When Joey Cross' school puts on the play "Peter Pan" and Selena is cast as both Mrs. Darling and Capt. Hook, Allison decides to audition for the part of Smee. She gets it, and she and Selena have a swell time in their roles.

    Towards the end of the season, the murderer is found (haven't decided who it is yet), and Rodney decides to leave Peyton Place for college. Allison is the last person to see him and waves him off, telling him that, while going away might be good for him, there are still people here who love him... and will wait for him.


    Season 6: I haven't got much in the way of stories for Allison this season... except for one significant one: Matthew Swain dies. I haven't decided if its because of natural causes, or if he's murdered as well (I'm reluctant to have it be the latter, because its too soon after Leslie's murder to have another, especially of another main character).

    Either way, he has left the Newspaper to Allison. She is now the new Newspaper Editor of Peyton Place... only some of the workers quit, because they don't believe Allison has the experience or capabilities to run it. Determined to prove herself and to honor Uncle Matt's memory, Allison hires new workers and throws herself into the business.

    At some point, though, Allison begins to doubt herself - and Uncle Matt's intentions - as well. Constance suggests that maybe Matthew intended to live longer, so that by then Allison would have more experience. This helps reassure Allison that Uncle Matt did indeed have faith in her, so she doubles down on her efforts. She even realizes that she already knew a lot of how the newspaper worked - thanks to Matthew subtly teaching her all these years.

    Towards the end of the season, Rodney returns. By coincidence, Allison is standing in the exact place where she had waved him off the previous year, and sees him drive up. He gets out of his car and she embraces him (whispering huskily in his ear, "Oh Rodney!"). He apologizes; he hadn't heard about Matthew's death until recently.


    Season 7: Constance's bookstore receives a new novel titled "Samuel's Castle," written by "Rachel Welles."

    The whole town is soon buzzing about this "scandalous" book... with some residents noticing a similarity to Peyton Place. While reading it herself, Constance is shocked and horrified once she realizes who the author really is: Allison.

    She confronts her daughter, who reveals she had started writing the book while she was away in New York during Season 3, and finished it sometime in Season 4. She has spent Seasons 5 and 6 organizing and editing the whole story, "disguising" it.

    "But not disguising it enough!" Constance snaps. "The whole town will turn on you, you'll be ostracized!"

    "If Peyton Place wants me to leave," says Allison, "then I'll leave. I've done it before, I'll do it again. But it won't stop me from writing the sequel my publisher wants."


    Just as Constance predicted, another town resident figures out what the book is really about... and who the author really is.

    The resident is none other than Marion Partridge, who vows to make "that little $lut" pay for slandering her character. She intends to sue for libel, only her husband tells her she won't have much of a case, as the character based on Marion bears a different name, and even has a slightly different appearance. That doesn't matter to Marion, who decides she must make not only Allison pay, but also everyone else connected to her: Constance, Michael, Selena, Norman, etc...

    But then something happens: Marion's husband, Charles, snaps... and kills his wife.

    In a state of shock, Charles leaves his house and stumbles into a place where a lot of the townsfolk have gathered. He bluntly says that he just killed his wife...

    ...and everyone proves just how much they hated Marion Partridge when they all agree to give Charles an alibi ("He was here with us all night, officer!") and stage things to make it look like a burglary.

    For a while, the residents of Peyton Place are quite happy that they don't have to deal with Marion anymore... except in one scene, we witness Jennifer Burbank Carter (the new wife of Ted Carter, who abandoned Selena in Season 3) say and do things that make it clear she is the next generation's Marion Partridge.
     
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    Why not Jack Chandler? It would be more unexpected than the kidnapping-saved by Norman scene.
    Gosh, that's a far cry from our "poetry-Allison" (unless she really believed she was Rachel Welles when she was in New York).
    Oh! I want this to be a fatal car accident. The town's folk (including Constance) rush to the scene to see what happened, a lot of commotion etc.
    Then the driver (out of his car, obviously) turns around and looks Constance straight in the eyes.
    It turns out to be the handsome, "framed" stranger who had been hanging on the wall in Constance's living room for all those years - "Mr. MacKenzie" (not the driver's real name).
    And how ironic that this fictional-fictional character from the very beginning would silence the town's biggest bully once and for all.
     
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    Because then it would seem like such a waste, of both a character and a plotline. Besides, I want Norman to have a heroic moment: in Season 4, I plan on him killing his mother (which would make the third season in a row where a child must kill their parent for their own survival; S2 had Allison kill Elliot, S3 had Selena kill Lucas), although I still haven't figured out just how or why he does yet (maybe she finds out about him and Lew). Either way, Norman has fearsome mixed feelings over it (fear, guilt and regret... but also relief and a sense of freedom), and he ends up losing his eye in the accident (which he considers punishment for what he's done), so I'd like for him to experience some redemption in rescuing the first person who ever gave him a chance.

    Huh? Oh, you must think I plan on having Allison be *exactly* like Mia Farrow's version. While I do plan on there being similarities, I plan on Allison also being more like the one from the book: more sexual, more adventurous, more defiant. She does start off the series seeming like an innocent little virgin, but when she starts dating Rodney, she tells him at one point, "I'm never going to get married, I'm only going to have lovers!" which makes Rodney realize there's more to Allison than he originally thought.

    Its true, that at the end of Season 2, she wanted to no longer be Allison MacKenzie (hence why she cuts her hair and gets new clothes), so it possible she came up with a fake name while in New York. Only then it seems like Lewis Jackman would have addressed her as "Rachel" while he was in Peyton Place... not unless she told him to call her by her real name. Because I want the town residents to recognize not the name "Rachel Welles", but the contents of the book.

    ....darn it! Now I'm torn... I still want Charles Partridge to be the one who kills her... hm, then again...

    Maybe Charles starts to attack his wife (strangles her? hits her?), but he either stops himself or she manages to get away, jumps in her car and drives away frantically... only to crash right into another car (or she swerves to avoid him and crashes into a pole or something) and die. Then what you described happens.

    There! That can be what happened. Thank you! :D
     
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    I just realized, though... Constance picked out the photo while she was still pregnant with Allison, and towards the end of Season 7, Allison has turned 23. So "Mr. MacKenzie" would have to have aged pretty well in order for Constance to instantly recognize him...

    In fact, the actor would have to be cast in the first season, but it would be a picture of him in his mid/late 20s that makes any appearance. Imagine getting cast on a show, and having to wait 7 years before you actually get to appear in a scene! Not only that, but what if that was the *only* scene that "Mr. MacKenzie" appeared in? I don't think we'd need him around for any storyline, since the irony of him causing the death of the person who's caused the most trouble for his "wife" and "daughter" would be enough. I can see it now:

    "Mr. MacKenzie" turns around, and happens to look Constance right in the eyes. Constance stares back, and for a moment, she can't understand why... until the camera starts cutting back and forth between this man's face and the photo of Allison's "father." Constance's eyes widen even more, but the man doesn't know what she's thinking, and only assumes she's stunned by the wreckage, and turns away, a little shaken himself. We get an overhead shot of the scene before everything goes to black, and the episode ends.

    The next episode can start off with Marion Partridge's funeral... a very small one with scant ceremony. In fact, I think it'd be hilarious if the whole town casually waves off her death... or better yet, throws a small celebration party. :lol: After that, nobody mentions Marion for the remaining few episodes. Not even Charles... who perhaps gets involved with another woman almost right away.

    But "Mr. MacKenzie" is never seen again, his absence explained in passing: he was merely passing through Peyton Place on his way to another town when Marion swerved in front of him. No charges were pressed, since witnesses say that it was Marion's driving that caused the accident. And since there was no damage to his own car, he carried on with his journey, completely unaware of the favor he did to his "wife" and "daughter."
     
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    I agree.
    Yes!! That would make more sense.

    Unknown person or not, he is part of the Peyton Place history, and I just wanted to do something with it.
     
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    And you came up with a magnificent idea! :D
     
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    @Willie Oleson Few more things:

    -I think when Constance sees "Mr. MacKenzie", I think Allison should be there too. It just seems like too much of a big moment for Allison to miss out on. Plus it would be kind've heartwarming that the childhood fantasy Allison was forced to let go of, would come back in some (albeit slightly twisted) way.

    -A while back, I was skimming through some old episodes, and came across one where Allison had taken Kim Schuster and her mother to a puppet show. They went backstage and met up with an Asian girl. I don't remember her name, but I think I'd include her as a more prominent character in the remake as well. She starts off as just another student in Allison's class, though for a while I couldn't decide what it is her parents do. At first I considered having them be dry-cleaners, only I didn't really like that idea. Then, the other day, when I went out for lunch at a Chinese restaurant (one of my favorite things to do), I realized that could be what her parents own. Their daughter would work there part-time, and it would give the show a chance to have a new/exotic atmosphere once in a while.

    -In Season 7, when Michael Rossi is on trial for murder, Selena, now Mrs. Peter Drake, has her lawyer husband represent the doctor. It's her way of paying him back for helping her back in Seasons 1 and 3.

    -Ted Carter's new wife, Jennifer Burbank, would be cast to look like Hope Lange - the actress who played Selena in the 1950s movie.

    -In Season 1, Betty has a dance off with Allsion, based off the one she had with Rita in the original TV series:

    The idea is that Betty is trying to win Rodney back... by almost giving him a lap dance (@ 7:15). But Allison surprises everyone by giving just as sexualized a dance. And soon, it seems like both girls have forgotten about Rodney and are simply focused on out-dancing the other. Not sure how the scene ends, though having a fight break out seems like a viable option. :lol: Another detail about this scene would be that Norman takes on the role that Original!Allison had in the show: sitting like a wallflower and watching wide-eyed.

    -At Allison's 17th birthday, when Rodney turns out all the lights so the teens can pair up and start making out in the dark, Norman sneaks away to hide in the kitchen. However, Lew was already in there, looking for some girl to kiss, and when the kitchen door opens, he hears a girl giggle from out in the hall. Thinking said girl has entered the kitchen, Lew takes "her" into his arms and starts passionately kissing "her." Norman is caught off guard and is too stunned to fight back... and slowly melts into the kiss. However, it doesn't take too long for each boy to realize they aren't kissing a girl. That's when Constance comes in (to the living room, not the kitchen) and turns on the light, and starts yelling at Allison. Lew and Norman sneak out the back and jump the fence, and awkwardly avoid each other for awhile.

    Norman ends up having a sleepless night, and later on has a recurring nightmare of jumbled images of having sex with Allison and kissing Lew before being "rescued" by his mother. I'm thinking of taking your idea of Norman stalking Betty, and having it begin because he's desperate to "cure" himself (he figures, Betty Anderson is the most sexual girl in town; if she can't "cure" him, no one can). I'm thinking eventually, Dr. Rossi finds out what Norman's been up to, and basically tells him, "There is no cure. This is something you're going to have to live with."
     
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    One more thing: I know I said I'd have there be 7 seasons for New Peyton Place, but I'd also have there be 30 episodes every season. Ambitious? Yes. But considering the vast amount of characters that the original novel, movie and TV series have, it could be seen as both a challenge and an opportunity to explore as many storylines with every character as possible.

    Plus, the show's 100th episode would happen in Season 4, when Allison has returned to Peyton Place. And the 200th episode will happen in the 7th (last) season. Each would be an opportune time to have a Special Event Episode... if we can think of anything for them...

    ...in fact, why not have Marion Partridge's death be the 200th episode? Having "Mr. MacKenzie" make an appearance would surely be a 200th-episode-worthy event!
     
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    Sorry, my brain has gone into overdrive. I've got more ideas:


    At first, I didn't really think of "Peyton Place" as a catfight show... but now I have an idea for two. You remember, @Willie Oleson , your idea of Selena Cross and Betty Anderson having a catfight in Doris Schuster's dress shop? While I do like that idea, I don't think their catfight should take place in the dress shop, because Selena works there, and she ends up becoming the manager. To get in a fight at her work would be unprofessional.

    However, I did think up one brawl that happens in the dress shop. It takes place in Season 3, after Allison has disappeared. Constance is already on edge, worried sick about her daughter, but she has her friends to help console and reassure her. Selena in particular does what she can to help out, and the two end up forming a quasi-mother/daughter relationship.

    One day, Constance comes into the shop to take Selena out to lunch. Several other women are there, gossiping as they paw through the latest fashions. Constance exchanges pleasantries with them, but for the most part remains quiet. Then the subject of who the new High School principal is going to be: Elsie Thorton, Allison's old teacher, who had wanted the position since Season 1, but Tomas Kyros (with whom Constance had a romance with) had been hired instead. Now that Principal Kyros had been murdered (by Allison's own father, no less), the school had been left without a principal for the remainder of the previous school-year. After a few months of searching, Leslie Harrington (head of the school board), decided "What the hey" and just gave it to Miss Thorton.

    Marion Partridge, also a member of the school board, didn't like Elsie Thorton and made certain she didn't get the position back in Season 1 ("She's senile, and takes too many pills!" Marion had said, ignoring the fact that she too took quite a few prescriptions... and denying that she and Elsie are the same age).

    So when the ladies start discussing the new principal, Marion, angry that she had been overruled, makes a very callous remark, about how a man had to die in order for Elsie to get what she wanted.

    Constance overhears... and snaps.

    She quietly walks over - and *punches* Marion right in the face, before tackling her into the racks and toppling mannequins. The other ladies scream and yell for them to stop, even trying to pry the two women apart. But Constance, who has "always been so afraid of scandal," has lost all sense of propriety and relentlessly pummels and scratches Marion, pulling her hair and ripping her dress and slamming her into the walls and floor.

    The other women, who comprise of Selena, Doris Schuster, Roberta Carter (Marion's best friend), Alma Miles, Hannah Cord, Betty Anderson and her mother, Julie, do what they can to stop things. Doris screams for Selena to help her from keeping things getting knocked over; Selena is torn, as she wants to obey her boss but also help Constance; Roberta Carter tries attacking Constance as well, but she gets knocked aside by Alma Miles and Julie Anderson. Hannah Cord ends up running out to the sidewalk, yelling for help. A few men run in and help separate the two women.

    Constance is foaming at the mouth, while Marion just looks relieved... though its not too long before she too becomes furious and casts a few vicious slurs at her attacker, such as, "No wonder your daughter left you! She was trying to escape you!"

    Constance tries to break free of the men, but she's held firm. Betty, who thinks Marion went too far with that last remark, runs up and starts slapping her with both hands. Julie and Alma restrain Betty, and Doris Schuster starts screaming, "OUT! EVERYBODY OUT! YOU ANIMALS, GET OOOOUUUUUTTTTT!!!"

    Everyone leaves, all except Selena, who comforts a sobbing Doris: "My shop! My beautiful shop! Its ruined!" Selena reassures her boss that everything can be fixed.

    Word of the fight spreads like wildfire. Marion wants revenge on Constance, but her husband, who already heard the story from a lot of other people, tells his wife, "I heard from Mrs. Anderson, Mrs. Miles, and Mrs. Cord, that you were made a crude joke about Principal Kyros' death! No wonder Mrs. MacKenzie attacked you. You won't have much of a case against her."

    At first, Marion refuses to believe she did anything wrong, until she goes to see Doris Schuster in the newly repaired dress shop. Doris tells Marion that Constance already apologized and paid for any damages the fight caused, and so therefore, Constance has been allowed back into the shop. However, until Marion apologizes herself, she cannot enter the shop. Marion is outraged, but Doris, annoyed, points out that she doesn't have to pay for any damage, as Constance already took care of that. Placated, Marion finally apologizes, though she still plans her revenge on Constance. She'll just sit and wait for her to make a slip...

    ...which happens later on in the season, when Marion overhears Selena confess to killing Lucas to Constance.



    Also, I discovered a few photos on how I'd like for the dress shop to look:

    The exterior:
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    The front of the store is like a bay window, so that people can see the mannequins (and the latest fashions) from all three sides.

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    The interior:
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    @Willie Oleson I'm starting to feel embarrassed, coming up with so many ideas.


    In Season 6, that's when Michael and Constance get married. I'm thinking in the season premiere, Constance is the one who proposes. She is sitting in his car after a date or something, and she says to him, "Michael. Don't let me get away. Marry me." (This was inspired by a scene from the old TV series where Allison said the same thing to Rodney, only he, after many episodes of pursuing her, suddenly "feels confused.")

    Michael happily agrees... only he asks her not to say anything yet. He wants to make an announcement the next time they go out. The next night, they go out to one of the fancier restaurants in Peyton Place, Constance looking radiant and happy, Michael giving a million-dollar-smile. Finally, Michael taps a knife against his champagne glass to get everyone's attention...

    ...and he suddenly gets down on one knee and asks Constance to marry him, holding out a ring (maybe his grandmother's?).

    Caught off guard and confused, Constance nonetheless smiles and says yes. Later on, back in his car, she confronts him about why he did that. He confesses he felt embarrassed that she had been the one to propose, and did what he did in order to save face. Constance sympathizes, but she also tells him not to go behind her back again ("We've been through too much already to do that.").

    They then decide on their living arrangements: they'll move into Constance's house, but they'll keep Michael's beach-house, either to rent out or use as a "romantic hideaway" whenever the whim takes them.

    In the mid-season finale (episode 15 if I get my wish for every season to have 30 episodes), the wedding takes place. Constance wears a gown of pale pink (and I honestly decided on that color before I discovered an old magazine cover that had Dorothy Malone wearing a pink wedding dress, standing next to Elliot Carson) that came from Doris Schuster's dress shop, as did all the bridesmaids dresses. Allison gives her mother "something borrowed" for the occasion, like in the original show.

    I'm also thinking that Allison decides to be the one to give the bride away, except maybe that honor should go to Matthew Swain, Constance's cousin.

    After the reception, Michael and Constance leave to go on their honeymoon, and for a while, all seems happy...

    ....until Matthew Swain is murdered.


    Earlier this season, maybe in the premiere, Selena's older brother, Paul, who left the family in the very first episode of the series, has returned. Only he's come back with his own share of secrets and troubles, in the form of some people he owes money to. Paul tries to get money from Harry Miles (since he's Selena's father-in-law now), who agrees to help him out... only for Paul to keep asking for more.

    I'm not sure on the details yet, but Harry cuts Paul off, and maybe even kicks him out. Matthew Swain takes Paul in, but it results in the men Paul owes money to to break in, which results in Matthew being killed by one of them.

    Paul tells the police that it was a random break in, but Selena can tell her brother is holding something back. She forces him to tell her what's going on, and Paul reveals the men also have dirt on him as well, which is why he won't go to the police. So Selena hatches a plan to trap the men by luring them into the Miles home, where the family holds them at gunpoint and call the police. Selena also gets the men to admit to Matthew's murder. They're arrested, but Selena had already told Paul to leave Peyton Place again, just in case any of the men did rat on him.

    She never sees her brother again.
     
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    But where is Steven Cord?:think:
     
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    Don't worry, I haven't forgotten about him. I just haven't thought up any stories for him. Not yet, anyway. The only detail I have thought up about him is that he's 10 years older than the Six Teens (that's what I've nicknamed Allison, Rodney, Betty, Norman, Selena and Lew, since they're the only main characters who start off the series as teenagers; and they all just so happen to start off at the age of sixteen :lol:).

    I'm not sure when I'd bring Steven in, though. Maybe as a recurring character in Season 1, and in Season 2 its revealed he's Catherine Harrington's son. And I think, in Season 3, after Allison has left, Betty eagerly pursues Rodney, thinking that the two of them have a chance again. But Rodney spurns her, so Betty decides to turn her wiles on Steven. The two end up married that season or the next.


    I did have an idea for how I'd end Betty's story in Season 7: After Martin Peyton dies, its discovered almost right away that he left *several* wills. One of them left everything to Rodney; another left everything to Steven; one divided things between the brothers; another divided things between the brothers AND Betty; etc...

    Eventually its revealed that Betty managed to convince Martin to leave everything to her... because she told him she was pregnant with Rodney's child. Betty suspects that Martin suspected she lied (which she did), which is why he made things so difficult for when he left this world.

    In the final episode, Betty is up at Peyton Manor, where she secretly burns what's supposed to be the "true" will of Martin Peyton. After making certain it all burns up in the fireplace (instead of just randomly throwing it in and missing ;) :lol:), Betty goes and lounges in the large chair that once was the favorite spot of Catherine Harrington, smug as you please. The camera then gives a low-angle side-shot of Betty, with the portrait above the mantel looming over her...

    ...and for a moment, the portrait, which is supposed to be of Betty, somehow looks exactly like Catherine Harrington. Is it her ghost coming back to haunt the manor? Or is it merely symbolic that Betty is destined to become the town's next Catherine, just as Jennifer Burbank is to become the next Marion Partridge?
     
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    Hey @Willie Oleson , I came up with an alternate version of my idea for Paul Cross:


    In this version, its Paul Cross himself who murders Matthew Swain. However, he did it accidentally when he broke into Swain's house, looking for money - because in this version, Paul still owes some people. I'm thinking in the years that he was away, Paul Cross developed a gambling addiction, which has landed him in more than one sticky situation. When he first gets back, he takes advantage of the Miles, but eventually Harry threatens to kick him out.

    Desperate to pay off his debts, Paul, who had earlier noticed a whole bunch of cash in Matthew Swain's open wallet, breaks into his house when he thinks Matthew isn't home... except he is. Because the lights are out, and Matthew hears someone fumbling around, he correctly deduces that there's a burglar and arms himself. A fight breaks out, and Paul grabs something and hits Matthew with it, making his escape... completely unaware that it was a killing blow.

    It isn't until tomorrow afternoon or evening that Paul hears about Matthew being discovered dead in his home. He feels like he's been struck by a sledgehammer. But he also knows he can't come forward without facing some serious consequences, so he keeps quiet.


    Later, at Matthew's funeral, Allison arises to say some final words. She announces that she intends to find whoever murdered her Uncle Matt... and that she intends to kill him. She even asks point blank for the residents of Peyton Place to help her. Michael Rossi stands up and says he'll do everything in his power to help Allison accomplish this, much to Constance's horror (Michael later points out that Matthew Swain had become his best friend during these years; he wants the killer brought to justice).

    Naturally, Paul is not only racked with guilt, but also living in fear. He just can't seem to stop his insides from eating themselves, until finally it becomes too much and he confesses everything to Selena.

    Now its time for Selena to feel like she's been hit with a sledgehammer. Her shock gives way to outrage, horror, frustration, confusion... before finally deciding that she must turn her brother in. However, Joey, who had been eavesdropping, comes out and begs his sister not to do that. Selena relents for Joey's sake, but she does read Paul the riot act, saying he's put them all in a ton of danger, that he could end up destroying all of their lives.


    Inevitably, Allison finds out who killed Uncle Matt. Upon learning that it was Paul Cross of all people, Allison realizes that all this time, she had been imagining that Matthew had been killed by a literal monster. But instead, its the sniveling young man cowering before her, begging her to forgive him. Allison tells him she's not going to kill him... not because she forgives him (and she doesn't know if she ever will), but because she loves Selena.

    Selena has no choice but to pack Paul's bags and tell him to leave Peyton Place, and never come back.
     

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