DALLAS - The Power or The Passion

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  1. Rove

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    I'm interested in other posters thoughts whether they were seduced by the Ewing's thirst for power, especially JR or did they prefer the passion between the couples. For me it was always JR's manipulations and winner take all bravado.
     
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    I don't think it was one over the other. It was all part of the engrossing saga of the family.
     
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    I will take the passion over the power, as much as i loved and lapped it all up back in the day

    When i taped it on VHS and watched the epiosde again after it was aired It was SF, family, dynamics, relationships and couples i watched again - Ewing oil and business scenes were mainly fast forwarded - same as when i got them on DVD unless it was a classic moment / scene
     
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    Call me a sexist but I think women were largely attracted by the passion and men were attracted by the power play.
     
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    For me it was the power. Here's why:
    In 1979 things were very rough, including here in the United States. This was the first time we heard terms like layoffs and downsizing. People feared losing their jobs, or even holding on to our jobs but not having enough money to last the month.

    We needed a diversion!

    And along comes the Ewing family. They have money, and the power to make even more money. It was intoxicating to watch J.R. grab even more power as the series went on.
     
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    For me it was the passion. When I first watched the show as a child I felt like I was peaking into the grown ups world and I didn't understand much of the business plots. But I did love to watch the couples and romance.:kiss:

    I also really enjoyed the scenes with the children (who were about my age) and the family relationships between the different generations. To me Dallas was a family saga.
     
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    That's it. And that's why I never had this thing about "favorite characters" (although Miss Ellie was the most egregiously untapped for 13 years).
     
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    The tragedies of a wealthy dysfunctional family, with the occasional happy moment to give us an idea what they could have, if they weren't so jealous and greedy and tied up in feuds with other wealthy dysfunctional families.
     
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    It was the passion/romances that won me. In rewatches, I could skip the business deals but I remain engrossed by a Sue Ellen and JR scene, melt over Pam and Bobby scenes, be sad but like all the same Pam and Mark, be riveted by Katherine’s next move, enjoy Miss Ellie and Clayton’s mature second love, go doe eyed with a Lucy and Mickey scene and cheer and rejoice in the realistic, down to earth, likeable Donna and Ray

    Lol notice I put all the women first in those pairings, as it was, with the exception of gorgeous sweet Mickey, the women of Dallas who kept me watching season after season. I put all of the women first, even if the producers didn’t seem to give them that deserving respect (with the exception of the dream season haha)
     
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    Could it also be said the women were attracted to the men because well...they WERE men. Today's crop of men leave a lot to be desired. I'll admit I had a major crush on Pam (Victoria) but there was something about Donna (Susan) that had me captivated.
     
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    Susan Howard once described DALLAS as a great big morality play about all these wealthy people with every advantage imaginable constantly stabbing away at each other for nothing.
     
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    But entertaining...:)
     
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    Yes! And the Ewings demonstrate that money can't buy happiness.
     
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    It was all about the dynamic of the relationships for me, & the sense of family.

    I loved JR being sneaky, underhand & manipulative with everybody. Larry Hagman excelled in the role.

    I loved Bobby & Pam as couple. They were, no, they still are my favourite couple on television. The chemistry that Patrick & Victoria had together was a delight to watch.

    The rocky relationships that Cliff had with his Mother & Afton were good too. Ray Krebbs turning out to be the bastard son of Jock Ewing was inspired. We had Larry Hagman to thank for that terrific storyline, which set the scene for even more feuding between the Ewing brothers for many years.

    I also have to mention Digger Barnes who started & kept the feud going, passing it on to Cliff. I'm only glad the feud got finally resolved when Cliff made peace with Miss Ellie. It's a lovely scene from the show's later years when the series was beginning to lose it's way following the departure of Victoria Principal.

    I love the show. Dallas made a big impression on me as a teenager. I grew up with the show & will treasure the memories of watching it when it first aired back in the 1980's. I have all the DVD's & the movies from the show's original run. There will never ever be another show which will ever have the same appeal as Dallas. :)



     
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    That cheeky Cliff Barnes!
     
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    When it comes to passion, the difference between J.R. and Cliff is that Cliff was passionate about revenge on the Ewings. J.R. was passionate about business.

    Cliff would have been much more successful if he had given up the feud early on. J.R. would have been successful no matter what, and he enjoyed the fight.
     
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    I feel the same way. I always like the women characters more. Donna was definitely my favorite female character and Ellie. Sue Ellen had some great moments but her constantly going back to J. R. was fun and interesting to watch but became boring as it went at least Val and Gary's time apart the married to people who brought the best in them Abby was devious but Gary became intresting. His inner Eming came out like his father and older brother though J. R. is bigger achm..... (Slut) than Gary and Jock ever were.
     
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