Did They Know Jim Davis(Jock) Was About To Die When The Finished The Jock/Ellie Divorce Storyline?

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  1. Billy Wall

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    The storyline ended on Jock’s last day on the show. Was it a coincidence or did they know he was certainly dying?
     
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    The storyline was brought to a hurried end when it became apparent he was too ill to continue, although he did appear in all bar the last two episodes of season 4.

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    The cast all knew that Jim Davis was terminally ill and visited him at home prior to his death. he had deteriorated thro the second half of filming S3, wearing a wig and having to sit rather than stand for much of it

    but to give him hope, they wrote scenes featuring him into the script for S4
     
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    Should add Jims issues first came to light when they were filming The Dove Hunt the year before

    As a schoolgirl at the time who collected everything on Dallas and its cast, the public did not know he was ill and the weekend before he died it was in UK press that he was taken to hospital - ill with a stomach ulcer but would be back filming when Dallas resumed. He died about 3 days later
     
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    His voice was noticeably higher in his final season.
     
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    The only Season 4 DVD episodes where Jim Davis looked and sounded his usual self as Jock were the two episodes after J.R. was shot, but as mentioned above his health problems had started nearly a year earlier when he started to feel a bit ill while filming The Dove Hunt. After the first 2 episodes of Season 4 DVD, it's slow decline over the season for Jim Davis as Jock. And around his last 5-10 episodes, you can see his face and hair looking different, and his voice sounding different. He carried on working for as long as he could. That scene he did with Barbara Bel Geddes and Steve Kanaly, you could tell he was putting every last ounce of his acting energy into that scene. He had one more scene after that, sat down in a car as Jock and Miss Ellie were about to go on their second honeymoon, and clearly dubbed his final line of dialogue in the studio afterwards because it didn't match his mouth movements on screen.

    Jim Davis must have passed away about 2 months or so after recording his last scene as Jock. Some people might have found it spooky and morbid that Dallas kept Jock alive in the storylines until well into Season 5 DVD, even having characters speak to Jock on the phone, but Dallas did the right thing.
     
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    I agree they handled Jock's death in the best possible way. It gave the viewers and characters time to grieve him. I only wish they had handled JR's death on the new show as well. :(
     
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    To the person or persons responsible for orchestrating that storyline they should have been rewarded with an Emmy and Golden Globe award at the very least. Jim may have died off screen but keeping him alive on screen while the creative types figured out how best to deal with the character of Jock was, in my opinion, a masterstroke. Jim's passing and how the writers and actors honored his memory - for years to come - was some of the most powerful television. Who could forget when Miss Ellie completely lost it in the kitchen.
     
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    The worst of this storyline is how badly affected other parallel plots, especially re the women: Sue Ellen, Pam and Lucy, who languished for almost the whole season, one at Southern Cross and then her horrible condo, the other at the clinic and feeding Ugly Baby, and Lucy whining about Mitch absurdly at Southfork waiting to be kidnapped by Roger...Even Donna was boring just worrying about Ray´s new business until she found Jock´s and Sam´s dirt (that was a good twist!).

    They should have given each woman strong long arcs that might have climaxed (or nor) when Miss Ellie said that "Jock is deeeaaaad"...but no, they didn´t. No wonder Rebecca and Katherine stole them the limelight for awhile that season.

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