Discussion in 'Dynasty 2017' started by Zach, Jan 7, 2018.
Her character was the weakest on DH. But I haven't seen any other show starring E. Longoria.
Eva would’ve been too expensive as Cristal but she’s a good actress. I still think there were endless people they could’ve chosen instead of what we got. Hell, Vanessa Marcil would’ve made a better Cristal.
As for the Friday move and potential reboot, it’s troubling but I still am proud of this show. It’s steadily improved and they’ve done a good job of developing the characters and the plots without going too far over the top. I do think Cristal is a weak link but I still want to see some sort of strong rivalry with Cristal and Alexis. I think there IS some hope. Ratings expectations in Friday’s are lower so if it even just held current ratings on Friday it could be renewed. I’m curious what is going to happen come Alexis’ arrival. The show is already good so I imagine they’ll have a good entrance planned and hopefully good promotion to go along with it.
If the show ends up failing then at least we got one solid season of a reboot. This has been so much more enjoyable as a Dynasty or soap fan than the Dallas reboot. At least the casting was good and these writers weren’t ashamed of soaps and the history of the show. Only thing I wish is that we had gotten cameos from original cast in new roles. Tom Carrington could’ve very well been played by a former cast member, for example.
But Longoria specifically as a latin Cristal.
As an outsider (Australia) is this move to Friday night akin to the graveyard shift (midnight screening) in other countries? If so that doesn't bode well for Dynasty 2.0.
If I recall correctly, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and Jane the Virgin both air on Friday’s and that article specifically said they’re a lock for renewal.
And Dynasty practically has the same ratings as those two shows (it's even a tad higher in the - albeit less important - total viewers count), which gives me hope there will be a second season.
Here's all 10 series that have aired on The CW so far this season compared in the ratings. The bottom four are practically identical and one of them - Valor - is already known not to be going forward:
I previously thought that Dynasty would last more than one season when I saw the low ratings that Crazy Ex & Jane The Virgin were getting and were still being renewed.
However, the fact that the CW have spoken about their disappointment in Dynasty's performance rings alarm bells. Also, Crazy Ex Girlfriend may have been low rated but it had critical acclaim, something that hasn't been forthcoming with Dynasty. I'm also wondering if Dynasty's budget will work against it? I know they set it in Atlanta as it's cheaper to film there but I'm guessing it's still more expensive to make than the other low rated shows, given that it's set in the world of the 1%.
Why? People don't watch television on Friday?
Kinda expecting this, no surprise really, I hope Nicolette Sheridan can save it, but the problem is is that its not interesting enough,
Cristal's mysterious past isn't intriguing enough and don't get me started on the mess that is the Colby clan all Jeff does is pout and that's it.
It might have been best not to promote Dynasty in such a way as it raises viewers expectations that a filthy amount of money was to be spent on high productions values.
Well the showrunners and writers are on time to change this, a complete retooling keeping the elements that work (Blake, Fallon, Sammy Jo, Joseph, Michael), solving Cristal's mysterious past once and for all to give her a new personality (more focused in her executive role in CA and the manor lady) to fight Alexis, and new Colby members (NuSable and why not? A new actor for Jeff -after an accident -like Steven in the original Dynasty-) I hope the move to Fridays is to fix the audience problem in the CW and in USA, but that the Netflix international distribution is strong enough for a second season renovation.
Well it worked for original Dynasty with the inclusion of Alexis Carrington but can it really succeed this time around given that element of surprise is no longer there?
The element of surprise is burnt (like Alexis champagne) after so many primetime soaps since the 80's. In 1981 it was almost a new genre (except for Peyton Place) a blank state where Ewings, Carringtons or Channings could suffer week after week the shocking drama just seen on daytime soaps with more money and higher production values. Today is almost impossible to surprise the viewer with turning points or plots not seen in 40 years of series (pure primetime soaps or drama series with soap elements).
A shame really. There is nothing on commercial television that excites me, at all. I cannot stand that pseudo reality nonsense. Cooking shows pretending to be something else...it's food for goodness sake. Last year Australian Ninja did phenomenal numbers so what does the opposition do? Let's produce something similar and ride this gravy train. I know some point to Empire as engaging but I found the characters too jaded to return for another episode.
Perhaps that is the problem. We've seen it all before. Nothing new to view, same tired old actors playing carbon copies of characters we've seen before but just in a different environment. The good old days.
That's the problem of the not-so-good new days... in Australia or Spain! Here it's the same, pseudo reality programs (following the day by day of famous people and his family), talent shows (cooking, music....), date programs (nudist in a beach or with clothes on eating in a restaurant), this kind of programs everywhere. We're fortunately enough to have some drama series produced for primetime but mostly centered on drugs, corruption or crime with some soapy elements. Sooo boring!
The only thing close to a soap this season it's a drama about a lawyer's family with a tough matriarch (TREASON) all of them suspects in the misterious death of the patriarch, firmly opposed to his wife, son and daughters in a merger with a british law firm. There's the faithful younger daughter (found illegitimate in episode 4) and a bastard son (the honest uncorrupted one) with another woman thay all family meets in the will reading. That death freezes the merger and starts a war inside the family, full of adultery, ambition, divorce...
I still don't understand the problem. Is it less interesting if you watch it on Friday?
We watched Flying Doctors on Saturday nights, and that was one of the biggest tv hits of the 80s.
If you would subscribe to one of the streaming services you wouldn't know where to start.
A copy isn't necessarily a bad copy.
Ha, there's something familiar about it.
So wicked, so cruel
Given that we watch TV differently these days, the Friday night death slot may not be as relevant today but here's the background to it.
I think the fear is, the live audience that's already there might not follow the show to Fridays because they're doing other things with it being a weekend night.
Surely not before 10 pm?
Again, this example is from a different era but Aaron Spelling had concerns around Malibu Shores airing at 8pm on Saturday nights because he figured it's target audience of teens would all be out on dates or socialising with friends.
Regardless, Friday nights aren't really regarded as prime real estate on the US schedules. For the last few years, Friday schedules have been mostly filled with reality, repeats, interchangeable police procedurals and newsmagazines. In the 80's, shows like Dallas, Falcon Crest and Miami Vice thrived on Fridays whereas it's now seen as a bit of a dumping ground. As in, no network is going to launch one of the flagship shows of it's new season on a Friday.
ABC has had "Once Upon A Time", and "AOS" for their final seasons, as their not expected to be renewed.
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