Elizabeth Taylor & Richard Burton - Discussion & Photos! :)

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Which is your favorite movie with Elizabeth Taylor & Richard Burton?

  1. Cleopatra (1963)

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    33.3%
  2. The VIPS (1963)

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    0.0%
  3. The Sandpiper (1965)

    2 vote(s)
    22.2%
  4. Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf? (1966)

    7 vote(s)
    77.8%
  5. The Taming of The Shrew (1967)

    3 vote(s)
    33.3%
  6. Doctor Faustus (1967)

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  7. The Comedians (1967)

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    11.1%
  8. Boom (1968)

    1 vote(s)
    11.1%
  9. Under Milkwood or Hammersmith is Out (1972)

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  10. Divorce His, Divorce Hers (1973)

    1 vote(s)
    11.1%
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  1. Karin Schill

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    That's great! I am glad that you're loving the movie so far and found it interesting to read your comments. :)

    I hope you will love the second part too even though it's very different and it even has it's own JR! ;)
     
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    I finished "Giant" last night! :) Great movie! :spinning:
     
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    2001 interview on Larry King's show -- I like the auburn hair:

     
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    More LARRY KING appearances...

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    Phil Donahue interview, 1988:



    Intimate Portrait, 2002:

     
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    Thank you so much for sharing the interviews with us @Snarky's Ghost . I agree that Elizabeth looks great in the auburn hair. :)
    I hadn't seen that particular video before so it was great to watch it. :thank:

    @Ms Southworth I am really pleased to hear that you loved Giant. :)
    Have you been able to watch any of the other three movies in that box yet?

    Finally I've just posted a new Elizabeth & Richard music video I've made to my youtube so I figured I'd share it here:

     
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    No, I'm afraid not. :embarrassed: I've been busy with other stuff, including reading great books (by @Ray&Donna and others) and taking it easy with my family! Most of it stuff that I can do outside while enjoying the nice summer weather! :wink@ I'll get around to watching more DVD's in the fall, I hope! :wave:
     
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    It's okay @Ms Southworth it's not exactly movie season yet.
    So which were the other three movies in your box?

    Also I thought I'd repost a vintage article that I had posted before the crash last year:

    Vintage Article: ‘My nagging, scheming, seductive, honest wife’ –Burton Analyzes Liz

    The article is obviously written as a part of the publicity surrounding "The Taming of the Shrew" but I still think this article is really worth reading as it's written from Richard's perspective and offers some insights into their relationship and personalities. Here's the cover of the magazine:
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    “Richard Burton refers to The Taming of the Shrew as his and Elizabeth Taylor’s second coproduction. “The marriage” he explains “was our first”. It is their fifth film together, Miss Taylor’s first Shakespearean role and her husband’s first Shakespearean screen role. During the making of the film in Rome, Life correspondent Peter Dragadze talked with Burton. Here are his remarks about the real-life Kate he wooed, wived and continues to try to tame”.
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    ‘His Liz: ‘A scheming Charmer’ by Richard Burton.
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    “Elizabeth tries to be a shrew, wants to be an autocrat and unsuccessfully attempts tyranny in little things. She often tells me off in front of people when I upset her. She is also very jealous and doesn’t fancy my taking two looks at the same pretty girl. She gives me hard kicks under the table, but I go on looking because it does her good to feel a little uncertain at times.

    In our ménage, love is all right; honor is still intact but we don’t always obey. We never had any questions of who was the boss. She always realized I was to run the show. I do this by talking, talking, talking. My little shrew is inevitably tamed after a bit of talking.

    We nag each other a bit. As a housewife, Elizabeth is highly naggable and limited. She’s a good cook and makes marvelous breakfasts but she cannot brush a floor, for instance. I doubt if she can make a bed. When she cooks for an hour, it takes me four hours to clean up afterwards. I’m always cleaning up after her. I’m fantastically neat and tidy. The ash trays must lie square, straight and be clean. She just tears through all the rooms, leaving a shambles behind her.

    I think we were and still are very good for each other. My smattering of scholarship has darted off onto her and a smattering of her honesty onto me. The quality in her that appealed, and still appeals, to me the most is her total blazing honesty. She cannot tell a lie.

    The most important thing of our marriage is this continuous excitement, this wonderful creature called Elizabeth who fills me with spiritual and physical joy every time I see her. Her spirit bubbles with an inner force like life itself and not like champagne which goes flat after a while.
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    She never uses tears to wheedle things out of me or cries if we have strong words. She uses her charm to seduce me into a particular action. It took her 10 days to get a black rabbit she and the children wanted. It was a wearing-down process using Kate and Liza to say how darling the rabbit was every time we saw it.

    Elizabeth is a very funny girl and thought it may be hard for an outsider to believe this, she has a roaring sense of humor that tends towards the ironic and satirical. This comic side also attracted me, especially her impersonations of people which she presents in a series of lightning sketches – sort of puns in movement. We exchange names for fun. She calls me Harriet or Agatha and I call her Sam, Fred or Maxie. But this is just camping around.

    Elizabeth is extremely intelligent though she lacks in formal education – how can you possibly be educated at M-G-M? I tried her out with I.Q. tests and she is well above the average. The only thing I can credit myself with is increasing her awareness of the world. She has an extraordinary interest in poetry and I thought she just read to make me happy. Now I know that she enjoys it for herself. She grew up with art, has a great knowledge of painting and is herself a considerable painter. We have contributed to each other: I dismissed paintings as bad photography before I met Elizabeth.

    We both have feelings of insecurity. I think one of the reasons is the uncertainty of how long it will last and also because an artist must feel insecure to act well. We feel particularly unsure of ourselves when we are in front of lots of people or at a party because no one really wants to know us. They simply stare as if we are prize animals. What we do when we go to parties is drink to kill the feeling of icy isolation and wait for the attacks to begin. People of inferior intellect who try to get at us don’t worry me – one can fix them with a few well chosen words; it’s the nasty ones that upset me.

    I first met Elizabeth when she was 19. I thought she was the most beautiful and sullen creature I had ever met: difficult, unreachable, unmanageable, unobtainable, impenetrable and – again- difficult. Now, at 34, she is an extremely beautiful woman, lavishly endowed by nature with but a few flaws in the masterpiece: she has an insipid double chin, her legs are too short and she has a slight pot-belly. She has a wonderful bosom, though.

    She’s one of those women who thinks if she is 15 minutes late she is actually being half an hour early. I scold her about this. She nags me about being stuffy and using long words. When we scream at one another about something, I accuse her of being scatterlogical and having an inspissated mind. This generally amuses her so much she breaks up completely.

    She is a great charmer, cajoling, flattering and crafty – there is no guile or hideous scheme known to women that she is unable to employ. For instance, I adore soup of every kind and when she wakes me up in the morning with a bowl of soup for breakfast I know she wants something. Sometimes it takes two or even three bowls of soup for her to get what she wants.

    We made The Taming of the Shrew because we wanted to act a rough role as far away as possible from those Rex Harrison parts with nice suits and freshly laundered shirts, and my wife because she wanted to talk English for a change. In Shrew she shows definite Shakespearean feeling, the only difficulties being some of the Bard’s words that are alien to her. For instance “how durst thou” is not common talk in California.
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    Acting is a kind of showing off and the best person to show off to is your wife. I find it embarrassing to work with any other actress after Elizabeth – as gifted as I think other actresses are. This doesn’t mean we don’t have our little professional problems. I refused to accept her as my leading lady in a film I will be making because I don’t consider it a good part for her. I told her that if we go on making films together we will become like Laurel and Hardy. Her reply was “What’s wrong with Laurel and Hardy?”

    People are awfully catty about our getting nearly $ 3 million a film between us. But in fact all this money is fairly wealth – it doesn’t really exist. Seventy-five percent goes before we see it. We need so many people to help us who have to be paid. For example, we need at least four guards to watch the villa or someone will try crawling over the wall to photograph us in the lavatory.

    I have an inferiority complex about Elizabeth getting $ 2 million and I only $ 1 million. The trouble with a 40-year-old actor and a 34-year-old actress after 20 years of career is that one loses normal ambition. My sole ambition now is to earn $ 2 million a film and Elizabeth’s only ambition is to play Hamlet.”
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    “The Burtons have a midday drink between takes of The Comedians. The film is an account of Papa Duvalier´s regime in Haiti. Burton plays a hotel owner turned rebel. Liz takes a relatively minor part as an ambassador’s wife with whom he is having an affair”.

    Source: Life Magazine, February 24, 1967, p. 78-84.
     
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    I thought that I'd bump up this thread with a repost of an old collage that I've made:

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    Okay so today is the 92nd Anniversary of Richard Burton's birth so I figured I'd repost some photos in this thread to mark this occasion. :bs:

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    Richard as a young man.

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    With his first wife Sybil and daughter Kate

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    With Elizabeth. :kiss:
     
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    Has anybody mentioned that Larry Fortensky died last year?

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    I really don't care much for George Segal in VIRGINIA WOOLF. I wish Redford had accepted the role, but he didn't want to do it and thought it a terrible movie. Redford was still a little stiff then (he's terrible in TWILIGHT ZONE and THE CHASE) but I still would have liked him better than Segal.

    Albee had envisioned Bette Davis and James Mason as the leads -- and I can totally see that!
     
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    I can see why Albee had pictured Bette Davis in the Martha role. Maybe that's why he wrote in the "What a dump" line in the script so that it would be an intertextual reference. Only when Elizabeth said it the impact wasn't the same.

    Redford instead of Segal could have been interesting. Even though I think Segal was fine in the role. Not superb though like Elizabeth & Richard.
    Oh I'm sorry to hear that. I only knew that he wasn't in the best of health after he'd had some accident a few years ago. I didn't know that he had passed. :(

    You know out of all of Elizabeth's husbands Larry Fortensky is the one I remember from when I was growing up. Because back when I was a child/teenager she was married to him and at that age I used to think that Elizabeth and her husband were about the same age. I guess that's a compliment to Elizabeth as she looked a lot younger than she was when she married him. :)

    Anyway here's some Elizabeth & Larry photos:


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    In the end of November I was travelling the Pacific Coast Highway past the Big Sur area where they filmed "The Sandpiper". So I saw some locations from the movie that are still easily recognizable 50 years later and I thought I'd share some photos with you all. :)

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    This scene was filmed on Pfeiffer Beach...

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    This is what it looks like today.

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    Another angle...

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    This is the same backdrop but taken after the wall to the furhest left ended...

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    They rebuilt the famous restaurant Nepenthe on a Hollywood backlot...

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    This is the actual road up to it...

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    The rebuilt Nepenthe set...

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    The actual restaurant today...

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    In the opening credit we can see Bixby Creek Bridge...

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    It was built in the 1930's and is still standing today...

    I hope you have enjoyed these photos. :)

    @Jessie I am tagging you since I know that "The Sandpiper" is also one of your favorite movies... ;)
     
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    Here's some more Sandpiper location photos from The Big Sur coast line that is just as beautiful in real life as on film... :)

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    In the 1960's

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    In November 2017

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    In 1960's

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    In 2017

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    In the 1960s

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    In 2017
     
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    Today it's Elizabeth's birthday. So I thought that I'd post some old scans in memory of her. :)

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    I've recently read another Elizabeth book:

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    It was basically just a bunch of assembled quotes from other famous people about Elizabeth Taylor. So if you are looking for an ultimate quote collection about what people have said about her this book is for you. If you are looking for a biography with a narrative in it this book is not it. The book is sprinkled with some photos. Here's some examples:

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    That's all for now. :)
     
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