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  1. Emelee

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    It's never been Eurovision Singing Contest. It's song contest, so best voice has never mattered. Just like when people listen to music, really. My favorite artists aren't necessarily the artists that I think are the best singers. There's got to be something else there too.

    Israels's singer had a good voice, the song had a great message, ok lyrics and she had a good attitude. BUT........ that's as optimistic as I can be. The chicken thing was horrendous!!!! But then again, Crazy Frog was a massive hit once, so peoples' taste can be very strange.

    Eurovisions history is filled with weird entries. All the way from the 70s to present day. Dschinghis Khan comes to mind. Weird as heck, but in a fun way which makes it good. And didn't Ireland once send a singing turkey to represent them? :lol:

    When you first hear/see these odd numbers, the reaction is like WTF?!?! But they are also the acts that you remember the most. And when some years has passed, you can look back on these weird songs or performances you can smile or laugh about it all - with more loving feelings.


    Like with the Russian grannies baking...




    First reaction: WTF?! What a joke! Are people really voting for this crap?!

    Reaction now: Naaawww... they were so cute!!!! :D


    PS: no, Israel is not in Europe. But it's a country the UN created out of nothing to give the jews as an excuse for the 2nd world war. It's the piece of land that America & Europe stole from the muslims to give to the jews - and still America's little sweetheart. So we pretty much have to include them.

    Australia is kinda like a UK colony. So we have to include them like an annoying little sister who is following us around. :p
     
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  2. Emelee

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    Despite being a terrorist state..... *ducking for the flying tomatoes*, I think it's safe enough there for ESC.
     
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    No, but maybe there's a difference between being attacked once a year and being bombed twice a week. I was merely thinking about the "odds".
    I don't know what the situation in Israel is, but if someone would pay me €100,000 to spend a vacation in Israel I'd say thanks but no thanks.
    Then again, this was Portugal, when does anything ever happen in Portugal - and yet there was a madman on stage.
    Let's hope it stays that way. There's a good reason why I avoid shows like The Voice.
    I don't mind these novelties being part of the show and I don't object to weird & new things, and I wouldn't say that all the Eurovision classics are good songs - it doesn't get more bubblegum than "Ding-A-Dong" - but I find it a bit jarring that a strong contest like this year is overshadowed by a hype or controversy.
    But a hype is a hype because of its contagious nature, so maybe it all makes sense after all. And just because this song won it doesn't mean we can't enjoy the other songs anymore.
    They can sing about whatever they like, but I hate it when a song wins because of a certain message (or because of the artist who performs the song), at the expense of songs with a better sound.
    If the song-with-a-message also happens to be the best song then it should win, of course. But that's not what happened this year.
     
  4. hatayas

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    Wow! I have never heard such a hateful and false account on the establishment of the state of Israel!
    How exactly was it stolen? There were Jews living in the land of Israel during the British Mandate just as there were Muslims. You're ignoring the Jewish historical connection to the land and the fact that Jews were living in Israel for thusands of years. So it was definitely not "created out of nothing."
    I'm not saying that everything my government does is justified, but you cannot present the situation as if we took over an established state or we were handed the land just because coutries took pity on us, the narrative is much more complicated than that.

    I can go on about the need to see the two sides in the Israeli -Palestinian conflict (which is obvious to a lot of people here but not around the world, unfortunately) however this is not the right platform.

    By the way, not that I see any connection between WWII and the establishment of the state of Israel, but since you mentioned it, as terrible as the war had been, it's important to note that for the Jews it was a different experience. Six million men women and children were slaughtered just because of their religious identity. You cannot dismiss that fact by simply writing that Israel was "given" to the Jews "as an excuse for the 2nd World war".
     
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    You right @Barbara Fan, i gues it's not important if ou can sing or not, well one good reason not to take it serious anymore.

    Well said @Barbara Fan, that's what I also thought when the Netherlands did not place themselves for a long time for the final, my thought where then, "Netherlands stop! please". :pray:

    That's right, Isreal is not even in Europe, so is Australia, i think it's time to change the name of the "Eurovision songcontest", mayby like "The Best Scru-up Songcontest". :giggle:

    I also say every year I just don't wanne look at it anymore, but then when i hear a good song, i just wanne watch it again.

    I'm glad i didn't hear the winning song on the radio, i think it's more then enough to watch it twice on tv, and i hope not to hear it ever again. it's just horrible. :eck:
     
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    Well maybe a nice party for the fans anyway because it is also exactly 30 years ago that Celine Dion won the Eurovision song contest. :spinning:

     
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    I do not know if it is safe in Israel, but I myself would never go to it, the country does not appeal to me at all.
     
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    It was supposedly inspired by the #Me Too movement.
    It probably got some sympathy votes since the singer used to be bullied as a child.
    The kids probably liked the clucking like a chicken part. It was sort of funny.

    I don't think it had much to do with the song to be honest as it wasn't that good. Supposedly it's the same song writers who wrote the song for Israel in 2016 and it didn't do as well so I don't think song writing skills had anything to do with it. It was probably more a match of the right singer with the right song and hype and PR.

    Do I think the right song won?
    Nope. It was far from my favorite. I was rooting for Austria.

    But still congratulations Israel. :)
    I am sure they will do a fine job hosting the song contest. Maybe bringing that contest there will bring the same kind of unity between people in Palestine and Israel as hosting the Olympics did for South and North Korea. Here's to hoping that something good will come out of this.

    P.S. I do wanna visit Israel some day. It seems to be a fascinating country with a lot of history. :) D.S.
     
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    I always wanted to go to Israel, or more accurately the area occupied by Israel, because as a Christian it has many locations significant to my faith.

    Eurovision has been held in Israel before without incident. However, it shouldn't be held in Jerusalem because it is an illegally occupied territory that should not be considered as being part of the Israeli state. The next contest should be held in Tel Aviv.
     
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    Here, here!!
     
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    I have always wanted to visit Israel, places like Jerusalem, Nazareth and all the other biblical places of my Sunday school upbringing / my childhood, so much history

    But.... and its a big but, the Arab countries that surround Israel scare the S*** out of me so its unlikely that I will ever visit, which is a shame.
     
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    And why is it so important that they have that particular city? Those countries are so big, if giving up one city would mean the end of the conflict...
     
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    @Willie Oleson I think it has to do with that Jerusalem is a city that is of historical significance both to Jews, Christians and Muslims. So it's a place that neither the jews nor the muslims want to give up on. Most of those places can be found in the old part of Jerusalem which host places such as The Western Wall, the Al-Aqsa mosque and the church of the holy Sepulchre.

    I also went to sunday school as a child so I have the same fascination with the places from the bible as you do @Barbara Fan :)

    A couple who were friends with my grandparents went to Israel and Jordania on vacation some ten years ago and he still talks about that trip and all the amazing places they visited. So hearing his stories have made me even more curious to visit Israel. So I really hope I will be able to travel there some day. :)
     
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    2019 - Another year, another contest :D


    I read this rumour today ...

    Madonna will perform at the Eurovision Song Contest in Israel... and 'will earn a whopping $1million for performing just TWO songs'

    The superstar, 60, is said to have agreed to make a guest appearance at the annual event which will be held in Tel Aviv in May.

    Madonna will perform two songs - one of her hits and a new track - in what would be one of the show's most expensive bookings to date. And the Material Girl singer will reportedly bring an entourage of 160 people for the $1 million (£766,000) show.

    It is believed the superstar has already butted heads with the contest's producers - because the song she plans to debut contains a political message. The Eurovision performance would be Madonna's fourth in Israel. The mother-of-six previously performed in the state in 1993, 2009 and 2012.

    The rumoured performance comes after Madonna expressed her disdain for a film project which planned to chronicle her rise to fame. Last year, when the pop monarch heard about a script by Elyse Hollander called Blond Ambition (named after Madonna's Nineties tour) she let it be known that she wasn't impressed.

    In an Instagram post, Madonna said: 'Nobody knows what I know and what I have seen. Only I can tell my own story. 'Anyone else who tries is a charlatan and a fool. Looking for instant gratification without doing the work. This is a disease in our society.'
     
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    The ESC is not the place for superstars imho.
     
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    I wonder if this is an April Fool's joke that's gotten out of hand and keeps circulating?

    Still it would be cool if it was true. Madonna do like ABBA and the Eurovision helped making them so... ;)
     
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    Not an April fool's joke.. Madonna is expected to perform in the Eurovision final. She will receive, according to various reports 1.3 million dollars for her performance.

    That would make watching the Eurovision even more enjoyable than before. Though I must admit, I have not watched it in the last ten years or so and I used to be a big fan.
    I promised my kids I would let them watch it, in spite of it being aired very late at night, just because it is held here in Israle, so maybe I'll join them. Having Madonna sing there is definetly an impetus.
     
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    She´s dying for the day to come.
    Literally (how old is she, 101?)​
     
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    The Eurovision Song Contest is the kind of thing that you either enjoy or live an anhedonic life counting down days until your welcome death don't. So Madonna is not necessary, but just as with Justin Timberlake, I think it is an attempt to lure an audience beyond the EuroAustralian one, aka the American audience. Yet it is doomed to fail, because Americans are always suspect that there are sinister ulterior motives beyond such moves, such as teaching them the Metric system, geography, or biology and its creepy sister, evolution or even--heaven forfend--a foreign language!
     
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    The country does not appeal to me geographically, but its young men certainly do :D
     
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