Filoli vs. The Sets

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  1. Laurie Marr

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    I always loved the scale of the Filoli set, and how surprisingly faithful it was to the real thing. Unfortunately the super high exposure of the photography completely drained it of the grandeur and stateliness that would have made it a truly memorable setting.
     
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    Let's not forget that the first two seasons were filmed in a different lot from seasons 3-6. I know the first two were shot on Fox whereas 3-6 on Warner. I am not sure about seasons 7-9. But I think the Warner studios were the overexposed ones. In contrast, the COLBYS Paramount studios had a very different look.
     
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    Did we do a "what set changes would have liked to have made or seen?" thread, or did that die with the old soapchat 2 years ago?

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    Now I can see you're obviously right, @Grant Jennings , that the "upstairs" hall was just the downstairs hall re-dressed... I guess I just assumed the show was too disorganized to pull that off as well as it did --- and they fooled me for 30+ years.

    For one thing, that pointless blue curtain on the wall of the hall upstairs (ostensibly at the top of the stairwell) is there to hide the downstairs' anteroom/vestibule/foyer/entryway/front door.

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    - Because they did it on "Dynasty" first ;)
     
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    So could it be, that Dynasty from seasons 7 through 9 were also filmed on Paramount sets? Because Dynasty reused a bunch of Colbys-Sets once the Colbys were cancelled.
    Or did they transport whole sets from Paramount over to Warners? :confuse:
     
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    I didn't understand that either. And of course Alexis's penthouse set was used on both The Colbys and Hotel.
     
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    It's as easy as just checking the last second of the ending credits. :re: :D
    So i just did that, and according to the credits, S1 and 2 of Dynasty were shot at Fox and the complete remaining seasons 3 through 9 at Warner Hollywood studios.
    The Colbys were entierly shot at Paramount Studios. BUT originally they did have a Warner-Logo at the end, to complete the confusion. :lol:
    So Paramount and Warners obviously shared some lots/sets, at least in the late 80s.
     
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    Sounds like a great cliffhanger. :eek: :D
     
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    It's also because the director of photography was different.
    Actually, there were two of them and the first one (first dozen of episodes) shot Katharine Ross better that the second one. Ironically, that was the contrary with Stephanie Beacham.
     
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    Yeah, except in the next episode it turns out they're all ok.
     
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    And their hair is fabulous.
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    But still WITH helicopters! That's the difference! :cool1
     
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    I found this video of drone footage of the Filoli mansion and the surrounding gardens and estate. It kind of brings home how the grounds of the estate could of been utilized if only the show was allowed to location film there. Enjoy!!

     
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    Set to Debussy's "Maid with Flaxen Hair" which Steven played for Krystle in the first hour of the pilot.
     
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    I agree with all living there except for far families there is a tendency to stay or at least stay close. I always though of JR having a house on the property made more sense, of course an apartment in the city as well. Bobby as the youngest I could see staying, even marrying and staying.

    I could also see the 1st floor of Southfork fit the house with just some confusion, but the 2nf floor was off putting to me. Way to big, to many bedrooms, way to wide of a hall. As a ranch they’d have been better off using multiple out buildings.

    I liked that Dallas seemed to use a big house where for me Dynasty didn’t feel like a place a person would live but a museum. My favorite house was Falcon Crest and it seems it was the most loyal (usually) to the original.
     
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    That parquet flooring they used for the mansion set was awful, an so typical of DYNASTY. The Filoli floors were much better. and were, eventually, even the floors at Southfork.
     
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    Jim Davis himself asked the same thing during an interview, and then reasoned, “That’s television for you.” LOL.

    Southfork/Duncan Acres is actually a relatively small house that they made appear larger from the outside with some camera trickery. There’s no way that huge foyer in the upstairs hall, which appeared around season 4 or 5, could fit into that house.

    But you never saw the Ewings in limos either - they were driving around in Lincolns, VWs, and station wagons (and the stray Mercedes and Porsche). This reflected the modest upbringing of both Jock and Ellie Ewing. Dallas was about making money; Dynasty was about spending money, as they say. Smart of the Dynasty producers to go in that direction; if the show had come off as a Dallas clone, it wouldn’t have been successful.
     
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    The original "Southfork" (in the mini-series) was a much better choice, it was larger with wings with separate quarters for J.R. and Sue Ellen and Gary. David Jacobs said "Cat On A hot Tin Roof" was one of his sources of inspiration so I can understand wanting to keep everyone on the ranch. The house used in the series was all wrong; it appeared to have been built well after WWII when I thought it was supposed to have been built by Miss Ellie's father (or am I mistaken?). The house is much too small - especially the second floor. I can see the first floor rooms all fitting but the second floor layout makes no sense. It got worse after the fire when they added the wide second floor corridor (live the one in the Carrington mansion). The doors in the living room opened to alcoves (not actual rooms) were a joke.

    The house in "Falcon Crest" was perfectly suited to the series; it was from the right era, was elegant without being ostentatious and had just the right air or foreboding. They ruined it when they painted the trim white and hung pastel wallpapers. Later they reconfigured the living room (another mistake) and, like "Dallas" added door that led nowhere.

    I think "Filoli" is perfectly suited to "Dynasty", Blake would want something that send a clear message that he was a force with which to be reckoned. Blake purchased the mansion after he had married Alexis so the choice of a Stuart-style house for his British bride is logical. Yes, the house is someone museum-like but that's what Blake was looking for: an American Versailles.
     
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    Didn't the old ranch house Ellie grew up in burn or something before she and Jock built the mansion? I didn't have problem with the Duncan Acres house because it photographs bigger than it is.

    Yes, the FC mansion was indeed perfect, until they kept destroying it (as you describe). As I often say: so goes Angela's foyer, so goes the series.

    Except that Versailles had lots of color.
     

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