FULFILLED?!? He's Impotent

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  1. Sarah Danner

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    In Lover Come Back, when Sue Ellen tells Clayton she wants to offer Dusty a happy and fulfilled life, how is it he magically puts two & two together and knows that means she wants to bear his babies? One of those let's expedite the information along deals, I suspect.
     
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    Women's didn't always have the options that they have now. For a man of Clayton's generation it would have seemed a reasonable assumption.
     
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    Dusty was perfect for Sue Ellen: she didn't really want to put out, unless it was for a man who didn't want her. But Dusty did want her, so she could refuse him and yet everything was fine.

    All her hopes and dreams were satisfied.
     
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    You're thinking of the word sterile, not impotent. A man who is sterile can have sex but he can't get a woman pregnant. A man who is impotent can't get a woman pregnant because he can't even have sex. So Clayton was reacting to her saying she wanted a fulfilled life with Dusty and he realized then she didn't know Dusty was impotent.

    This is one of the reasons I found it so awful that after Sue Ellen and Dusty broke up largely because he had become impotent, Clayton started pursuing her as more than just a friend. I found that perverse, almost incestuous. Can you imagine how Dusty would have felt if Clayton had married Sue Ellen (which Clayton wanted)? How awkward would it be at the dinner table with Dusty looking at the woman he loved and could no longer make love to and then seeing his father who Dusty would know was doing with Sue Ellen what he used to do with her and could do no longer? Dusty's former fiance (or close to it) would now be his stepmother! How could a woman be a stepmother to a man she used to sleep with? It really would have been like incest! How could Clayton be so insensitive not to realize how destructive that situation would be to Dust's psyche, or did Clayton realize it but just not give a damn? Clayton usually came across as a classy man who had good ethics but him going after Sue Ellen and wanting to marry her was disgusting.
     
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    And yet JR can boink anybody.
     
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    Remember when Kristin visited JR in the hospital after shooting him? JR said you'll get yours or something similar and Kristin replied "But not from you because you're just not man enough anymore." I guess that was the one time in Dallas where people thought maybe JR had become impotent. I remember him saying he couldn't feel his legs. That's gotta be terrifying.
     
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    I remember it well. One of my favourite scenes from the entire series run. The overly confident JR greeting Kristin with, "Hello sugar." But then Kristin gets the upper hand. Pointing out to a man of JR's stature, "...you'll never be the man you once were...," while gently kneeling over, compressing her breasts, as if to say, "look what your going to miss." And then to add further insult to JR's deflated ego she gently pushes the wheelchair across the room.


    If only the producers had kept the character and her pregnancy going. The mind boggles at the juicy stories stemming from that. Lost opportunity.
     
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    I've always loved this scene. And there's the added subtext that she knowingly put him in that condition. It's interesting how the writers tried to put JR in situations where he was helpless and powerless in the later years, but they always came off in a ridiculously campy fashion. Yet this scene shows JR in a vulnerable position, and it's done in a dramatic and twisted way.
     
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    There were few times we witnessed JR in such a position but when handled correctly it showed the viewer two things. JR could be hurt and look out when he decided to return serve. That was the fun of those early years.
     
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    Yes, exactly. But in the later years, the writers kept him down for the sake of keeping him down.
     
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    Wearing those crotch busting stone coloured denims was unlikely to assist Dusty with his predicament. Not until the arrival of Dack Rambo did we witness how priapic splendour could be so proudly attired in denim.
     

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