Homophobic bakers lose 'gay cake' appeal.

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  1. Mazzilli

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    Yes, I have seen them in movies and TV. Actors playing them that is.
    So are all flamboyant gays secretly straight?

    I wouldn't say there is no such thing but you just don't know. Somehow I doubt this couple is.

    But both sides will be fine. Like I said, at this point it's a work(angle)
     
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    It has nothing to do with movies. Are you admitting to something?
     
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    Yes. I don't like cake.
     
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    The Supreme Court sided with the bakers, 7 to 2.

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  6. Mel O'Kalikimaka

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    Sickening.

    I'm horrified by the response of the Supreme Court in Colorado because it seems so clearly defined. At least under UK law where under the Equality Act 2010 it's illegal to refuse to provide a service to someone based on their perceived sexual orientation*. I know Christianity is much more pervasive in America, but it's still shocking that the law would allow such flagrant discrimination.

    He's running a little cake shop, not the Vatican. If his "faith" is causing bias about which orders he accepts and which he turns down then he has no business providing a service. The Supreme Court telling him otherwise so publicly is a green light for small businesses (and society in general) to discriminate with impunity knowing they can claim to be a persecuted minority if challenged.




    *Not that this has stopped the nauseatingly self-righteous MacArthurs from doing exactly this and then pursuing it to the Belfast Supreme Court trying to circumnavigate the law.
     
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    And the baker is, as expected, an obvious mothball fairy.
     
  8. Gabriel Maxwell

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    I gather this means if a Christian couple comes to my hypothetical bakery and wants me to bake them a cake with Jesus on it, I can refuse to serve them based on religious grounds. What's good for the goose...

    That of course being just the tip of the religious discrimination in commerce free for all iceberg. What's stopping now these "good-hearted Christians" from discriminating against Muslims, Jews, etc. next?
     
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  9. Mel O'Kalikimaka

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    Adding insult to injury - perhaps deliberately - the baker's lawyer went on record post-victory as saying:

     
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    But as Arby said above, they'd never force a muslim bakery to make a gay cake, for fear of resprisal.

    The Supreme Court decision wasn't close, and I can see the legal arguments in both directions.

    But then, although I'm essentially for trans rights, I never really understood the bathroom issue. And I'm not sure I would have come down on the correct side of it... o_O
     
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    If they're gonna let a "Christian" baker refuse to service same-sex couples, transgenders, et al., shouldn't it be the same if we did it to those "Christian"s, just to ensure a level playing field? Maybe I'm wrong, but that's just how I'm reading this.
     
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    Supreme Court strikes again - now tossing a ruling against a florist who refused to serve a gay couple:

     
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  14. Mel O'Kalikimaka

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    Why doesn't the idiot just bake himself a rock cake then crawl under it.
     
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  15. Mel O'Kalikimaka

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    The sickening MacArthurs have now won their appeal to the UK Supreme Court.

    He's as sanctimonious as ever. She's still smirking vacuously.

    And who can blame them? It may not be a good day to be someone who wishes to be treated with equality and dignity, but it's a great day to be a self-righteous, homophobic little snot.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-bakery-that-refused-to-make-gay-wedding-cake

    Arlene Foster has "commended" the couple. Which tells us all we need to know.
     
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    If I Knew You Were Comin' Out I'd've Baked A Cake

     
  17. Angela Christmas

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    It really annoys me when I hear people in the UK saying baloney like "the UK is a tolerant society", "we believe inequality" and "British people believe in fairness" when the reality is completely different.

    This case provides further evidence that the United Kingdom is a bigoted nation and the law doesn't adequately support minority groups such as LGBT+ people. What's more is that our current government do not care and they will do absolutely nothing to provide further protection in the law for LGBT+ people against bigotry.

    As for the baker to imply that God was on his side, I find that completely offensive. As a Christian, there is nothing in my faith that supports this kind of bigotry and doesn't recognise love between individuals.
     
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    Finally a day when common sense prevailed, well done the Supreme Court.

    But the Northern Ireland Equality Commission should hang their heads in shame in being egged on into an utterly vindictive vendetta against honest, hard-working Christian people.

    Even Peter Tatchell,. the prominent gay rights campaigner, said the verdict was the only one which made sense.

    A truly hideous waste of public money thrown into a bitter, nasty vendetta against Asher's Bakery. Anytime I am in Belfast I always make a point in lending my custom and showing my total support for them in the face of such spite.

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    The law need to be changed to stop this appalling form of discrimination. If a Jew went to a bakery and asked for a pro-Israel cake to be made and was refused that would now be OK according to this ruling. This judgment is a charter for hate, bigotry and discrimination.
     
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  20. Mel O'Kalikimaka

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    Yes. And with our exit from the EU I fear UK legislation will fall behind in human rights in general.



    Exactly. Their purported faith is an ugly - and probably deliberate - distortion of the true message.



    You accuse others of "spite", of going "out of their way to cause offence or take offence" and of having "a bitter, nasty vendetta" while at the same time you "make a point" of choosing your baker to score a petty political point



    The sad thing is that there are laws in place to prevent this discrimination. It's just that the bigots have found the loopholes.
     
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