Michael Jackson said this Another boy said that Based on what we've seen we're never going to know which one is telling the truth. I get where you're coming from and I respect that, however, I see it completely opposite and unless someone can dismiss either of our opinions we're just going to have to go with what we believe to have happened. But this is where I can not understand where you are coming from. I just can't believe there is anything that can justify a man in his 30s sharing a bed with various boys aged 7-10 I don't know enough about Culkin to know if he's credible or not, hasn't he served prison time for drug use? Is he not messed up himself? I believe his accusers were lying. I'm not saying all accusers tell the truth, I'm saying that some do and some don't. The case with these two guys coming forward after all these years sounds more credible to me. Part of MJ's grooming was telling the boys that they would go to jail if anyone found out. He also showered them with love and attention, he won them over, they never thought it was wrong what was happening to them. That said, I can't comment much on Cliff's case because I only know that he was accused and then found innocent. There's more info on the MJ case so it's easier to form an opinion.