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Meghan and Harry

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  1. Sarah

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51170973

    The Duke of Sussex has said he is "taking a leap of faith" in stepping back from being a senior royal, saying "there really was no other option".

    Speaking at an event on Sunday evening, Prince Harry said he and Meghan had hoped to continue serving the Queen, but without public funding.

    "Unfortunately, that wasn't possible," he said.

    It was his first speech since the couple said they wanted to stand down from being full-time working royals.

    The prince said he had found "the love and happiness that I had hoped for all my life" with Meghan, but he wanted to make it clear they were "not walking away".


    "The UK is my home and a place that I love, that will never change," he said.

    Prince Harry said it was a sign of the pressures he was feeling that he would "step my family back from all I have ever known" in search of "a more peaceful life".

    Earlier this month, Prince Harry and Meghan said they intended "to step back as 'senior' members of the Royal Family and work to become financially independent".

    Beginning his speech at a fund-raising reception in central London for Sentebale, the charity he co-founded which helps children living with HIV in southern Africa, he said: "I can only imagine what you may have heard and perhaps read over the past few weeks.

    "So I want you to hear the truth from me as much as I can share, not as a prince or a duke but as Harry."

    'A powerful force'
    During his address, the prince said he would always have "the utmost respect for my grandmother, my commander in chief".

    "Our hope was to continue serving the Queen, the Commonwealth, and my military associations, but without public funding. Unfortunately, that wasn't possible," he said.

    "I've accepted this, knowing that it doesn't change who I am or how committed I am."

    Prince Harry and Meghan have both spoken about the difficulties of royal life and media attention, with the duke saying he feared his wife would fall victim to "the same powerful forces" that led to his mother's death.

    He told the audience at the reception for Sentebale, which he founded to continue Princess Diana's legacy in supporting those with HIV and Aids, that he felt they took him "under your wing" after she died.

    "You've looked out for me for so long, but the media is a powerful force, and my hope is one day our collective support for each other can be more powerful because this is so much bigger than just us," he said.

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    As part of a deal finalised on Saturday between the Queen, senior royals, and the couple, Harry and Meghan agreed they will no longer formally represent the monarch.

    From the spring, they will stop using their HRH titles and withdraw from royal duties, including official military appointments.

    However, the statement by Buckingham Palace said they would continue to maintain their private patronages and associations.

    Prince Harry said in his speech that he and Meghan "will continue to lead a life of service".

    "I will continue to be the same man who holds his country dear and dedicates his life to supporting the causes, charities and military communities that are so important to me," he said.

    Johnny Hornby, chairman of Sentebale, said the new arrangements would not affect the prince's work for the charity. "We don't need - from Sentebale's perspective - his title, we just need his time and his passion," he told the BBC.

    'Years of challenges'
    Former Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker, who is the author of a critical book about the Royal Family, said the public could end up paying for part of the Prince of Wales' ongoing financial support for his son.

    Mr Baker told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that the Queen already offset support for family members against the tax bill for the Duchy of Lancaster, the sovereign's estate.

    Much of Prince Harry's funding comes from his father's estate, the Duchy of Cornwall.

    Mr Baker called for Prince Charles to say how he will support Harry and to publicly guarantee there would be no loss to the taxpayer through a reduction in his tax liability.

    The former MP also called for the Commons public accounts committee to investigate royal finances.

    Journalist and royal author Robert Hardman said the agreement with the Queen meant the duke and duchess's Sussex Royal brand, which they applied to trademark last year, is not "sustainable".

    "The whole thrust of what has been agreed with the queen is they won't be trading on their royal credentials," he said.

    In Prince Harry's speech, posted on the couple's Instagram account, he said that when he and Meghan were married "we were excited, we were hopeful, and we were here to serve".

    "For those reasons, it brings me great sadness that it has come to this.

    "The decision that I have made for my wife and I to step back is not one I made lightly," he said.

    "It was so many months of talks after so many years of challenges and I know I haven't always got it right, but as far as this goes there really was no other option."

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    Image caption The couple, together with their son Archie, spent time in Victoria over Christmas
    The couple said they plan to divide their time between the UK and Canada, after they spent six weeks on Vancouver Island with their son Archie over Christmas.

    The prince told attendees it was a "privilege... to feel your excitement for our son Archie, who saw snow for the first time the other day and thought it was bloody brilliant!"

    The duchess is currently staying on Canada's west coast with her son, after briefly returning to the UK earlier this month.
     
  2. Angela Channing

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    This is such an important point and I touched on it in an earlier. People saying Meghan is pushy, controlling or any other negative description that they attach to her are unlikely to have any personal experience of what she is really like and entirely base their opinions on what they are fed by the media. What I hadn't taken into consideration is that many of those media outlets being sued by Meghan and Harry for either breach of copyright or for phone tapping so they aren't exactly unbiased about this.

    All I know about Meghan is what I've seen from interviews with her and she always comes across as being confident, intelligent and articulate. I will continue to base my opinion of her on what I see for myself rather than the slanted, sometimes racist, media coverage.
     
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    Exactly @Angela Channing - I heard a commentator on local radio here this morning say that most of what has been written about Meghan is by female tabloid journalists and that their reason for doing so is based on jealousy because Meghan has a vibrant radiance that they could only dream of having.
     
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    Most of the criticism is not about what Meghan has done wrong (so far I've not heard anyone articulate exactly what she has meant to have done beyond repeating the negative tropes they get from the biased media) but it's about what she represents: feminism, activism. diversity and empowerment.
     
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    How does s/he even know? It's just more prejudice upon prejudice, speculation upon speculation, distortion upon distortion.
     
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    Wait, I thought it was all because of racism and misogyny...
     
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    Not my words, was just repeating what I'd heard on the radio....
     
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    Racism and misogyny is only part of the reason for some of the hate directed at her. Some of it is also because she is an American, some is due to a general dislike of the monarchy and there are other reasons too. But as I said in a previous post, what specifically has she done that is wrong because all the reasons don't seem to be based on any of her actions just people's perceptions of the person they think she is based on reports from a biased media.
     
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    As Sue Ellen said (quite a few times), 'I'd like to know the answer to that question myself'.
     
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    You are asking me what has she done other than reports from media which you called biased? Like, what do those of us who are coming in and out of Buckingham palace do personally know? :D
     
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    So we can believe everything the media tells us about everybody else except Meghan.
     
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    This person appears at your door and asks to use the loo --- is it bias (or racism, because he might have a black mother) when you think it's a bad idea to let him in?

    After all, all this news about a homicidal maniac running around is just stuff you've gotten from the media.

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    No, we are either passive sponges that just absorb any old lie the media feeds us or we are independent thinkers and critically analyse what they tell us based on what facts that supply to support what they say. Very little of the media criticism of Meghan is backed up with any real facts.
     
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    And which are you?
    But you seem believe the things they say about everyone else (or her) depending on whether you like it or not.

    In the States, there has been less coverage of Meghan and it's been much less negative than in the UK. But some people have instincts which surpass your objectivity.
     
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    If the only reason why you don't let him in is because you think he has a black mother but you would let him in if you thought his mother was of another race then yes, it would be bias.
     
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    So the axe, and the news reports about a guy with an axe, would play no role in one's decision...?
     
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    Exactly, we don't know the truth, just what the media tell us and all they feed us is speculations with no evidence to support it.
     
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    But if you like it, you embrace it. Which makes you objective.
     
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    I know the Royal Family rarely engage with the media on personal matters so clearly most of the media coverage is unsupported speculation therefore why should I just accept it without questioning its validity?
     
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    But you do when you like it. Which makes you objective.
     

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