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    Well, I wouldn't expect feminists (third wave or not) to stand up for men, I mean, it's clearly not their thing.
    Like I said, we're all fighting our own battles and that's just fine. But telling other people to join your cause is not the best way to get support.

    And now I still don't know how this all links to #metoo.
     
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    Except they love to say "women's issues are men's issues too!" And there was a time when that was true, when all they wanted was equality across the board.

    That's far from the case today.

    Ordinarily, it wouldn't relate to the idea behind "#metoo." Unfortunately, the third wavers are using it as an opportunity to condescend and treat men like misogynist enablers.
     
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    How clever! It's almost like a storyline from The Good Wife.
     
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    Pretty much this:
    To lots of women (and many men, too) the very suggestion that women have tons power in the culture -- and in some ways more than men -- is absolutely shocking and goes against everything they've been told, or think they've observed.

    And anyone who takes on third wave feminism and its raging hypocrisies and malevolence must just want women back in the kitchen and, y'know, raped and stuff.
     
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    Heh. This is funny:



     
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    I'd long thought that the progressive left was free of third wave feminists. I'd always associated them with the establishment wing of the left. Clinton and her staunch supporters regularly hide behind blanket accusations of sexism, but I hadn't seen such accusations made by the progressives. Unfortunately, that's no longer the case.

    And unlike Clinton and her supporters, progressive women are not calling the other side of the left sexists. They're saying it about the men within their ranks. In other words, they are siding with Clinton Democrats who refer to male progressives as sexist "Bernie bros." And they're using the same old tired third wave feminism talking points to make their case.

    So what makes us sexists? Interrupting women, joking about sensitive issue concerning women, ignoring them and their issues, and of course their standard complaints of harassment, abuse, and good old "mansplaining." Gotta love a bunch of condescending women bitching about condescending men.

    I'm overweight, but I don't attack comics for "fat shaming." I've been interrupted by women, but since men have done the same, it doesn't make them misandrists. I don't call it "womansplaining" when a woman is being condescending because men can be the same way. One women even said she's "tired of men not paying attention to the world outside of them." But isn't that ironic when feminists like her literally spend all their time talking about women's issues? They'll even invent scenarios to direct their faux outrage at.

    So it appears the entire left has been infected by this blight.

    Here's the article:

    Listen to what socialist women are saying about misogyny on the left
    A controversy involving the podcast Chapo Trap House shines a light on bigger issues.
    Updated by Anna North and Jeff Stein Oct 24, 2017, 8:30am EDT

    Like many women, Margaret McLaughlin is used to dealing with sexism and harassment, whether it’s on the street or in the workplace. And the Democratic Socialists of America, where she is the Washington, DC, chair, isn’t always a refuge.

    “At steering committee meetings, I’m interrupted by men who feel they can talk over me,” she said of her organization, which is 65 percent male. She’s not alone. Other socialist women have told her they’re “tired of men not paying attention to the world outside of them,” she said. “It comes out through harassment, abuse, mansplaining, or ignoring women.”

    Allegations of sexism against the socialist left aren't new. During the 2016 primary, some Hillary Clinton supporters argued that misogynist "Bernie Bros" were unfairly criticizing their candidate. To many leftists, these criticisms felt like a smokescreen to distract from centrists’ unwillingness to confront more fundamental class divides.

    But now similar criticisms are coming from within. A series of controversies over the past two weeks — many of which have stemmed indirectly from sexual assault allegations against Harvey Weinstein — has reinvigorated a debate over whether the socialist left has done enough to condemn the misogyny in the ranks of a movement explicitly devoted to gender equality. Socialist women are becoming increasingly vocal in decrying what they call socialist men’s encouragement of misogyny, while also stressing that leftist attacks on the Democratic Party cannot be reduced to sexism and that sexism is not confined to the left.

    For McLaughlin and other socialist women, the fate of a renewed American socialism may hinge on this fight. Though the DSA quadrupled in size in the past year alone, it’s still a blip in the larger left-wing universe. Whether the new socialist left can transcend its peripheral status will depend on if it can incorporate — and listen to — the women in the movement demanding a firmer stance against sexism.

    “I don’t think the men of the left are any more or less misogynistic than any other group of men,” McLaughlin said. “But leftist men just think with the equality of classes and races will come the equality of genders, but that’s not necessarily true. If men aren’t willing to do the work, it’s not going to happen.”

    The latest controversy on the online socialist left, explained
    Before we get to the recent controversies that have brought the issue of sexism on the left to the fore, here’s a quick rundown of the main players involved:

    • The Democratic Socialists of America: The 30,000-member-strong DSA has grown rapidly across the country since Bernie Sanders’s presidential run and Donald Trump’s election. (Jeff wrote a broader explainer about DSA, which you can read here.) Its founding was explicitly committed to anti-racist and anti-sexist work against capitalism, and — though often dominated by men at the local level — it boasts women leaders at the top of its leadership structure.
    • Chapo Trap House: A leftist comedy podcast hosted by four men (Will Menaker, Felix Biederman, Virgil Texas, Matt Christman), and one woman (Amber A'Lee Frost), Chapo Trap House earns enough through its Patreon account to gross approximately $1 million annually. (The show has about 20,000 subscribers, who each pay $5 per month. Jeff, a co-author of this piece, is a paying subscriber.) It’s been the subject of numerous profiles, including in the New Yorker and the New Republic, and it is known for delighting in vulgarity and mockery of liberals it views as uninterested in confronting the horrors of capitalism.
    • Cum Town: A podcast co-hosted by comedian Nick Mullen, Cum Town grosses close to $250,000 annually. The two shows openly swap compliments and promote each other, though Cum Town is much more vulgar and says it is not interested in politics. (One of Cum Town’s hosts, Adam Friedland, was a Vox Media employee.)
    The hosts of Chapo have actively promoted the DSA, while Cum Town is less political. But both have vocal, overlapping fan bases who are active online, and both have gained an outsize visibility on the left — Chapo and its fans don’t represent the full spectrum of American socialism, but few socialists, other than Sanders himself, have as big an audience or as large a platform from which to broadcast their views.

    Earlier this month, Josh Androsky, an officer with the DSA in Los Angeles, tweeted a photo of himself and two of the hosts of Chapo Trap House — Menaker and Christman — posing with Bill Cosby’s star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame (the tweet has since been deleted). The caption, "Hey libs try taking THIS statue down,” was a reference to conservative responses to calls to dismantle Confederate statues.

    The tweet, Androsky later explained, was meant to be a criticism of Hollywood in the wake of revelations about Weinstein:
    [​IMG]josh androsky[​IMG]

    ✔@ShutUpAndrosky

    we were trying to point out the hypocrisy of hollywood being anti-harvey and cosby still having a cosby star and completely fucked it up

    10:47 AM - Oct 12, 2017 · Los Angeles, CA

    But as DSA-LA acknowledged, many saw it as an inappropriate joke at the expense of harassment and assault victims. “The use of glib and ironic language around such a serious issue minimized the experience of survivors,” the steering committee of DSA-LA said in a statement. “Our city is littered with monuments to men who have abused the women in their lives and confronting that cannot happen if the conversation is one that is too hostile or glib for women and survivors to want to participate in.”

    Androsky apologized for the tweet, resigned from the Los Angeles steering committee, and pledged to undergo sensitivity training. Chapo Trap House has donated $10,000 to the Victim Rights Law Center, which helps victims of sexual abuse and assault, and the podcast hosts apologized for the Androsky joke immediately.

    But around the same time, another tweet touched off further controversy. This one came from a Cum Town fan account, and accurately quoted the show’s episode 73:

    [​IMG]Cumtown Podcast @cumtownpodcast
    Nick: If you’re listening, Scarlett Johansson, go f*** yourself, we’re going to comment on your body, Weinstein-style, baby.

    4:22 PM - Oct 15, 2017

    Nick in the tweet is Nick Mullen, one of the hosts of Cum Town. The tweet, like Androsky’s, seemed to make light of the allegations against Weinstein, and contributed to the feeling among many that the left needs to address misogyny within its ranks.

    For its part, Chapo tends to argue that it is primarily a comedy show — and that neither it nor Cum Town should be held to the standard applied to political leaders, when their main goal is to make their listeners laugh. (On its most recent episode, Frost said she had vetoed the idea of doing a full Chapo episode about sexual assault, saying a conversation about rape between four men and one woman would be “counterproductive to the discussion” and that other activists were better resources.) And, of course, comedians well outside the left have a long history of defending jokes deemed offensive or inappropriate by the broader culture — some don’t think it makes sense to hold Chapo to a higher standard. Cum Townhas similarly denied that it is about politics:

    [​IMG]Adam Friedland @AdamFriedland
    Cum town is not a socialist podcast it's not a fascist podcast it's a podcast about being gay with your dad

    12:27 PM - May 5, 2017 · Brooklyn, NY

    Leftists have long been suspicious of blanket allegations of sexism
    All of the above might seem a bit confusing to those not glued to the internecine debates of the online left. But the controversies have broader implications on the national political stage — particularly for the female supporters of Bernie Sanders, who deeply resent the notion that all socialists are sexists.

    “For the past two years, I’ve been trying to defend myself and my male comrades from charges of sexism and misogyny. But we keep giving them ammunition,” one female socialist told Vox. “I’m worried this will be added to the litany of Bernie Bro accusations.”

    Chapo and other voices on the left have long criticized Hillary Clinton’s approach to gender politics, arguing that Clinton only wanted to promote diversity within the richest class of Americans, rather than taking on the much more important goal of achieving economic justice for all. “The focus shouldn’t be on getting the 1 percent to be exactly the right percentage of blacks and women. The problem is America’s savage gap in inequality,” Menaker told Vox in an interview last summer.

    Meanwhile, liberal critics have long seen sexism in the left’s attacks on Clinton; they doubted, for instance, that Chapo’s audience only enjoyed attacks against Clinton out of devotion to the class struggle.

    Such criticisms have long come from the center, and many leftists have seen blanket allegations of sexism against the left as being made in bad faith, as efforts to discredit socialism without engaging with its ideas. But now some within the socialist left see a need for change — partially to remove one weapon from the centrists’ arsenal, but also because they believe elevating women is crucial for the movement’s survival.

    “You can’t promote socialism while at the same time maintaining political, and social relationships with those who see women as property and punchlines,” the leftist Roqayah Chamseddine wrote on her blog. “Combatting the reinforcement of patriarchy in our communities means challenging the way in which exploitation is reproduced amongst ourselves — how trauma is used as fodder for jokes, how silence is encouraged in order to spare our organizations from media attention, how victims are manipulated into questioning their memories, and feelings.”

    Women on the left have been concerned about sexist jokes and online harassment for some time
    The tweets were just the latest evidence of a problem some women on the left say has been brewing for a while. It’s not just about offensive jokes — women have reported online harassment from Chapo fans and other self-identified leftist men. (There’s no reason to believe leftists are more likely to harass women online than any other political group.)

    “I’m a socialist, but I’ve definitely been the victim of sexist Chapo fans getting mad at me on Twitter, and it makes your life boring hell,” another female leftist writer said. “My unfortunate tactic is don’t say anything negative about Chapo people or Cum Town people because it’s not worth the shit you get.”

    Both Chapo and Cum Town revel in vulgar humor — it’s part of the ethos of the “dirtbag left,” a term coined by Amber A’Lee Frost, one of Chapo’s hosts. As Jia Tolentino notes in her New Yorker profile of Chapo, Frost has written in detail on the politics of vulgarity, arguing that “reclaiming vulgarity from the Trumps of the world is imperative because if we do not embrace the profane now and again, we will find ourselves handicapped by our own civility.”

    But many on the left say there’s a difference between making dirty jokes and mocking assault survivors. “I have defended the dirtbag left, and as a movement I’m interested in it and interested in vulgarity,” said Eve Peyser, a writer at Vice and self-described leftist. But, she said, “saying ‘rape is funny’ is offensive and really disrespectful to every woman I know who has been sexually assaulted.”

    “Jokes matter,” said Tim Faust, a DSA organizer and Jacobin writer who has appeared on Chapo Trap House several times as its health care correspondent. “The answer isn’t, ‘Don’t make jokes.’ The answer is, ‘Get better at making jokes.’”

    "When we articulate what we are on the left, we must be crystal clear we are building a house or a fortress in which those who sexually assault women or harass women — or those who otherwise perpetuate or reenact any kind of oppression — aren't welcome," Faust said. “End of sentence.”

    Sexism is far from unique to the left — but it could be turning people away from the movement
    Misogyny isn’t “specific to the left,” Peyser said. “It’s pervasive.” She takes issue with the idea that Sanders supporters are unusually sexist. “They’re no more sexist than Hillary supporters, and that talking point is a way to undermine his leftist policies,” she said.

    But, Faust points out, a failure to deal with misogyny on the left has come with a cost. Some women “feel the culture is an impediment to their getting involved in socialist organizations.”

    Democratic socialism in America has made big strides since Sanders announced his candidacy. Left-of-center candidates are succeeding in local elections, and the DSA is growing in size and visibility. But challenges remain. Ever since Sanders's primary campaign, the socialist left has struggled with the perception — exemplified by the Bernie Bro stereotype — that it's overwhelmingly white and male.

    The DSA now has many female and nonwhite leaders, and half of its national steering committee is composed of women. The group believes that the reforms it calls for, like a $15 minimum wage and single-payer health care, will help address not just economic inequality but racial and gender injustice as well. And the DSA explicitly supports programs like “universal daycare, eldercare, and paid family leave” as a way to help working-class and migrant women. But the perception of the group as packed with white “brocialists” persists. Changing that will require a serious reckoning with racism and misogyny.

    “I know that a united left can push back against criticism from the center, and the only way to unite the left is to walk the walk,” Faust said. “The goal is to make people feel safe and comfortable so they can do the work they — and we all — want them to do.”

    To do that, leftist organizations and individuals need to make clear that they will not tolerate harassment, Faust said. “If you abdicate that responsibility, you give people the cover to harm others.”

    In McLaughlin’s view, change starts with men taking responsibility. Too often, she said, “it still falls back on women and gender nonconforming people to be the explainers of the problem.”

    She has plans for fixing that in her chapter of the DSA. “We’re going to make men do some homework,” she said.

    Correction: A previous version of this piece incorrectly stated a tweet came from Cum Town’s account, when it in fact came from a Cum Town fan account.

    Source: https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/10/24/16503462/dsa-women-cumtown-chapo
     
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    Where does misogyny and legitimate sexual abuse leave off and ragingly unquenchable female narcissism begin?

    Maybe we need to have a conversation about that.
     
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    And nothing will change as long as they believe in this man made system of female oppression. That's why they wag their finger at all men, rather than just the violent and sexually abusive ones. They see us as allowing it to happen. Of course, women aren't responsible for the bad behavior of other women. Conveniently, that too is the fault of man.

    Ironically, as they literally tell men how to act, behave, and think, they are essentially advocating matriarchy. And here I thought it was equality they wanted.

    And just to be clear, I know not all women think this way. Clearly, there are many sensible women out there who also realize what a farce third wave feminism is.

    And as for actual sexual harassment, ol' Papa Bush had to apologize to a woman for touching her inappropriately. According to actress Heather Lind, Bush grabbed her butt and told her a dirty joke four years ago. She said "He didn't shake my hand. He touched me from behind from his wheelchair with his wife Barbara Bush by his side. He told me a dirty joke." She also said that Barbara saw him do it, and just rolled her eyes.

    Bush's spokesman Jim McGrath put out an apology on behalf of Bush, but downplayed the incident by saying it was meant to put Lind "at ease" and was an "attempt at humor."

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    Meanwhile the Republican congress just voted that customers can't sue banks via class actions when the bank breaks the law and robs them. They can only resort to arbitration whose arbiters are chosen by the banks. (The Democrats all voted against this).

    And no one seems to care.

    As horrific Steve Bannon has said, as long as the left continues to push identity politics 24/7, the Republicans will will continue to win.
     
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    I'd say it's a combination of identity politics AND focusing more on Trump's vulgarity and impoliteness instead of the disastrous policies being proposed and implemented.

    I said early on that Trump puts an ugly face on ugly policies, some of which receive bipartisan support (like the $700 billion military budget and the endless wars we end up in).

    Democrats occasionally do the right thing, but I feel their push of identity politics and constant attacks against Bernie are just distractions from how corrupt and corporatist they are.
     
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    Rose says you should be roses. And that "pu$$ies grab back."

     
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    The two quotes that stood out the most to me were "We're a planet of women" and "It's time to clean house."

    Her whole speech felt like self-aggrandizing bullshit. You can be a victim's advocate and call out abusers without having an inflated sense of importance about your own gender.
     
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    Too late.
     
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    This SNL sketch from last night is pleasing, but also upsetting, a lot of people. They like the skit's statement but some are confused by the "tone". Which is a probably a good thing: it's both commentary about harassment but also a satire about political correctness... And not everybody is able to process both points simultaneously.
     
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    Maybe I'm one of those people who can't "process both points simultaneously" because it seemed to make the typical SJW statement that women are perpetual victims of men.

    Everybody's oppressed these days, and it's even become competitive. Like when the black woman says that women of color have it even worse, and all of the white women agree with her. That felt less like satire about political correctness to me, and more of an embrace of it. It was like the oppression olympics, with the white women conceding the win to black women.

    Sexual predators should have to pay for their crimes, no doubt about it. But there is a condescending tone that treats even decent men as either ignorant or indifferent to the situation.
     
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    Really?

    I dunno. It read to me like the white chicks were all nervously agreeing with her.

    Well, of course. Late third wave is feces.
     
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    I just didn't see it satirizing political correctness, but I'm open to hearing why you believe it does.

    What I got from it was that women feel unsafe around men to the point of having to always carry weapons, and that we've "ruined" many things for them. The funny thing is being vigilant is not exclusively a woman's issue because bad things can happen to anybody at any time.

    They also said that men ask why they don't speak up, and they claim they're not taking seriously when they do. I know women have been oppressed at times, but it just felt like the tone was that men have never been on their side or listened to them when they've spoken up. Personally, I feel that does a disservice to the men that have been on their side.

    Maybe I've taken it wrong, but that's the vibe I got.

    Yeah, perhaps. Is that the satire of political correctness, because white women feel like they have to tell black women they're more oppressed?

    I just don't see why some people treat oppression like a competition. Either you've been oppressed or you haven't.

    In a nutshell.
     
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    I read an article yesterday about the obvious fact that the Democrats demand their accused men resign, while the Republicans just deny-deny-deny (which includes pushing that child molesting maniac Roy Moore from Alabama into congress so they can have enough votes to give those unfortunate super rich the tax breaks they desperately need).

    Some of the more clever rightwingers have been gleefully chortling -- and with some reason, I'm afraid -- that the leftist women are so energized by this latest warlock hunt over male sexual harassers, both in Hollywood and Washington, that they're cannibalizing their own guys (and not in a sexual way, of course) who have supported feminism in the past, those guys now suckers and targets of the women they'd helped in their equality causes, those rightwingers delighted to see the liberals meltdown from the inside, the left's men being destroyed by the left's women.

    And while most of us condemn sexual harassment and assault, there is indeed this current kneejerk reaction to any accusation (or obviously organized set of accusations directed at any given man) where the men must be fired with minimal (or even any) proof, and this presumption that the accused harassers are metaphors for all men and the horror that all women have faced at the hands of all men.

    We really don't want to make the conservatives correct about anything, but the left is comin' pretty damned close to doing that.

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    "Choosing consequences doesn’t belong to you (men) anymore.”

    Actress Amber Tamblyn's cleverish piece for NYT --- and she doesn't seem too concerned about false allegations against men:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/opinion/im-not-ready-for-the-redemption-of-men.html

    Amber Tamblyn: I’m Not Ready for the Redemption of Men

    Recently, I was sitting on my couch between two influential, Emmy-winning writers, one a man and one a woman. We were talking about consequences. The comedian Louis C.K.’s entire life seemed to have been canceled overnight. His movie wasn’t being released, and his representatives dropped him after five women accused him of sexual harassment, behavior he then admitted. In just the past week, more famous and admired men have lost their jobs for such behaviors. Enter Charlie Rose and Matt Lauer right behind him and then Garrison Keillor.

    The man on the couch next to me was disconcerted, making an argument that while Louis C.K.’s actions certainly merited serious consequences, what he did and what Harvey Weinstein did are two very different things. We shouldn’t lump them all together, he insisted. The woman was firm with her response: “Yes, we can and we will. Choosing consequences doesn’t belong to you anymore.”

    The man balked with frustration. “What do you want,” he asked her. “What’s the ultimate thing you would want to happen to him, for what he did? That he never works in this business again?” The woman said, simply: “Yes. That’s the price you pay.” The man was quiet for a moment, thinking, until he found the question he’d been looking for the entire conversation. “Tell me something: Do you believe in redemption?”

    It’s a valid question. But it’s also a question that makes me deeply suspicious of its timing. Why do we need to talk about the redemption of men when we are right in the middle of the salvation of women? Not even the middle, but the very beginning? Why are we obligated to care about salvaging male careers when we have just begun to tell the stories that have plagued us for lifetimes? It seems some men like a revolution only when it’s their kind of war.

    Throughout history, women haven’t been in a position to come forward with their stories and be taken seriously as a rule. That’s the reason we sometimes wait 20 years to report something — harassment, assault — if we say anything at all. We haven’t been silent because we forgot or made our stories up. We’ve been silent because we’ve been silenced. But women now feel comfortable telling such stories. And maybe even more important, we are seeing consequences for those actions. This is more than a watershed moment — it’s a flash-flood point.

    Not everyone in my industry is in support of how quickly things are moving. There’s a lot of collateral-damage dread, a cloud of unease that has covered the industry lately with talk of potentially harmful side effects of such decisive actions. What if an innocent man is falsely accused? What if the repercussion doesn’t fit the crime? What ever happened to innocent until proved guilty?

    That’s why the male writer wanted to talk about redemption. The idea appeals to the men I’ve been talking with, I believe, because they want a sense of normalcy restored. They want measured discussion of consequences, not swift punishment. They want us to leave poor Al Franken and his harmless grabbing alone. I’ve heard several male friends talk about text chains they are on with other men only; they describe it as a safe space to talk about how they feel in this moment. They feel afraid, disoriented and discounted. And I understand their need for such comfort and security. I am a woman. I know nothing other than needing such comfort and security, for my entire life.

    We’re in the midst of a reckoning. It’s what toxic masculinity’s own medicine tastes like. And people should allow the consequences to unfold, regardless of how it affects those they consider to be friends. The only way to enforce seismic, cultural change in the way men relate to women is to draw a line deep in the sand and say: This is what we will no longer tolerate. You’re either with our bodies or against our bodies. The punishment for harassment is you disappear. The punishment for rape is you disappear. The punishment for masturbation in front of us is you disappear. The punishment for coercion is you disappear.

    This new rule upsets many people, men and women. But what they don’t seem to understand is, no one is saying a disappearance from the public eye has to be forever. (Well, Harvey Weinstein is forever.) I’m not talking about banishment. I’m talking about ceding the floor. The power of celebrity and cultural approval must disappear for the time being so that all women see and believe that consequences do exist.

    In that discussion about redemption on my couch, the woman said to the man: “Look, do I believe Louis C.K. is going to come back in a year or so with a lot of reflection about what he did? Yes, I do. When he goes back out on that standup tour someday, I’ll roll my eyes and say, ‘All right, get on with it, then.’ But for now, his old power is over. He’s going to have to find a new power if he ever wants to come back.”

    A new power. Can there be one for men, free of humiliation, shame and violent assault against women? Women who are their wives, daughters, mothers and friends sitting next to them on couches? And what would it take to achieve it? That’s the question for men and their text chains right now, not the question of how soon they can ask about redemption. Redemption must be preceded by atonement. It is earned, not offered. If you want amends, you have to make them. You have to acknowledge the line in the sand. Once you do this, the next step is simple: Pick a side. Choose us.

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    Amber Tamblyn (@ambertamblyn) is an actress, writer and director.

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