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Dallas Character Miss Ellie and her brutal catfight smack-downs

Discussion in 'Dallas - The Original Series' started by Snarky's Ghost, Aug 15, 2017.

  1. Snarky's Ghost

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    Okay, sure, no one wanted DALLAS to start doing all those OTT contrived catfights that DYNASTY did.

    I mean, Pam slapped Sue Ellen once, and Marilee seemed like she might have popped Jamie or vice versa before someone fell into a pool.

    But would it have been interesting for Mama to kick some female butt on occasion, just so she could display some of the "Texas frontier strength" Esther Shapiro felt Miss Ellie was lacking?

    I liked Ellie demure, too, mostly. But where was that matriarch who demanded Ray get her shotgun out of the closet?

    Should Ellie have beaten Lady Jessica's arse once the latter showed up again and started killing folks? Or perhaps BBG could beat the hell out of Donna Reed's body double in the same way Krystle did her evil twin, Rita...?

    And how about the guys?? Frankly, I always want to see Mama slap J.R. down after Sue Ellen grabs his keys and runs for the Mercedes at the end of "Things Ain't Going to Good at Southfork".

    Miss Ellie: "Sue Elllllennnn...!"
    J.R.: "...Mama..!"
    Miss Ellie: "So -- you've destroyed her again!"
    J.R.: "Stay outta this, Mama!"
    Miss Ellie: (rushing her son) "Don't you ever learn?!?"
    J.R.: "Mind yer own damn business, Mama!"

    Ellie then slaps him, giving Larry the opportunity to do one of his classic IDOJ reaction shot falls against the grandfather clock in the foyer, knocking it over to a massive crash of chimes (which Mickey and Lucy can hear from the patio just as Sue Ellen makes her drunken exit thru the sliding glass doors).

    I wonder if DALLAS went to too great a lengths to make Miss Ellie overly tasteful.

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    "I'm going to kill you. And I'm going to kill you right now."
     
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    Ellie at a DOA meeting in the '60s:
    "I'm going to eff all of you up if you mess with me."

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    "Who the hell left this creature alone to crap in my pool? He'll be in my chili by sundown!"

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    "Think ahead, Sue Ellen. One of these days I'm going to knock you on your lousy keister!"

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    I think the occasional slap across the face is the most violence I'd like to see from Ellie, perhaps a punch at a push. I don't think I'd wanna see her rolling around on the ground, hair pulling and throwing vases. Unless of course at the beginning of the dream season it was revealed that Donna Reed's Miss Ellie had been an impostor all along and she came face to face with the real Barbara Bel Geddes Miss Ellie. Then I'd expect nothing less than a total smackdown, with much of Southfork being trashed, and faux Ellie being carried off on a stretcher.
     
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    All she had to do was vocalise what she wanted to say. That was powerful enough.
     
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    Yes! And somehow, inexplicably, an obvious Linda Evans does all the stunt work.
     
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    Problem is that they didn't let her do that much either after the first couple of years.

    Besides, we know there was a physical fight between Miss Ellie and Lady Jessica at the Krebbs' home before Jessie stuck Ellie into that Town Car trunk.

    Sure, it was probably more effective to hear Donna describe the scene than to actually see it -- but could you imagine the footage if they'd shot it? BBG and That Other Alexis in a knock-down, drag-out, adult-diapered cat fight...??

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    I don't care if you're name is Cynthia Cidre & you're the new Producer of Dallas because there's no way in hell I'm writing a codicil allowing John Ross part of Southfork!! I left the ranch to Bobby, not JR & I'm not having any more feuds in this house! Now get out of here before I get my shot gun!
     
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    Occasionally and without warning, Ellie should burst thru the door to the den donning one of those wrestler outfits with the words "You Disgust Me!" printed on the back, and then attacks the offender/intruder and pulls no punches, pounding her rival to a fine chili paste.

    I feel like I've seen it.
     
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    I'm dying at the visual images here.
     
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    Yes, I'd like to see an Ellie who just becomes physically abusive at the drop of a hat.

    Dithering? I don't think so.

    "I've buried them all out here, Dusty, and you'll be next if you don't do what I say!"
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    I dunno
    I guess we now know who really killed Hutch McKinney (and she enjoyed it too!)

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    Oh, yeah. Shot the creep.
     
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    she didn't just *threaten* Jock with that horsewhip
     
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    I liked Ellie as the strong matriarch. I would have liked her to have been more like
    Victoria Barkley instead of the watered down version they wrote her as. She stood up to the Cartel which was great.
     
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    When Clayton was having his whatever it was with Laurel Ellis, I hoped Miss Ellie would push him into the pool.
     

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