Rewatching Knots Landing

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  1. Karin Schill

    Karin Schill Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Okay so tonight we watched "The Longest Night"...

    Karen's gone missing out of the blue. It turns out she's been kidnapped! :omg:
    This plot came like out of nowhere with no build up what so ever...

    Ben changes his mind and doesn't leave with Cathy but Val realizes that Cathy and Ben has had an affair after she sees them hug and trashes Ben's house. I wonder how come he never locks his door?
    It seems like she always walks right in, if she uses a key we never see it.

    Mack's daughter Paige has shown up and he remembers her mother Anne. But Paige lies and says that Anne is dead. Mack feels responsible for the girl.

    Gary realizes that Abby is fooling around with Peter Hollister.

    So this is Cathy's final episode. It seems like they keep changing the young couples on this show. First it was Kenny & Ginger, then Diana & Chip, then Cathy & Joshua and now they've introduced Paige who will take over...

    Ben leaves town and Gary comforts Val on the beach. I love that scene when the two of them just sits and giggles and talks about how they've come full circle. :)
    It seems like whenever there's a season finale they tease the audience with a possible Val & Gary reunion to make the viewers tune in the next season...

    Also since the season has wrapped up. Here's some thoughts on season seven...

    I love:

    - Val & Ben getting married
    It was about time and I loved the drama with Gary on the wedding day.

    - Gary giving the twins Lotus Point
    This created drama and caused tension between Ben and Val.

    - The way they dealt with Gary's grief early on in the season
    It gave Abby the perfect opportunity to handle things.

    I like:


    - Cathy and Joshua.
    I like them as a couple even though he treated her so wrong.

    - Joshua's tragic ending
    I was sad to see the character go. The way he slipped and got more and more tormented was well executed.

    - Laura and Greg getting married
    I just wish they had actually shown the wedding.

    - Olivia the teen rebel
    I like how she found out about that Gary had fathered Val's twins and her mom's involvement in it and how she acted out.


    I dislike:

    - Cathy stealing Ben from Val.
    This makes both of their characters less likable.

    - Gary asking Abby for a divorce
    I really like them as a couple and is sad to see them come to an end.

    - Gary and Jill
    She seems like a gold digger at this point.

    - Peter Hollister
    I don't know why but I can't watch this character without thinking about how he ends up in the cement...:lol:

    - Making Jason Avery 4 years younger
    No offense to the new actor but it was just weird how he never grew up.
     
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    Bobby did die in the Knots Landing universe. The events of Pam's dream are real there.
     
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    I know that's sort of strange to think about since Bobby is very much alive to me. I guess that's because I'm a Dallas fan first... ;)

    Anyway tonight it was "The Inside Man"...

    So Greg offers Ben a new job to work with Peter's PR. Ben doesn't really want to take the job but feels pressured to take it because of Jean Hackney. Gosh how I hate the Ben is a spy plot. I think they are completely ruining his character! :(

    Poor Michael is in love with Paige who is just toying with him and has already moved on to Peter.

    Jill survives but lost her baby. Gary is glued to her side at the hospital.

    Karen reads Anne's letter to Mack and realize that Paige has written it. She realizes that Paige is a liar and they are wondering what else she is lying about. Then we see a tomb stone with Paige name on it. This image seem to indicate that Paige was supposed to have been an impostor. But maybe NS was kept on the show because of her popularity so they changed the plot they had planned originally?

    Does anyone know if that is the case?
     
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    If Paige had indeed died, she would have been buried with Winstons (her mother's family, the ones who raised her) rather than Mathesons (since Anne was only married to Mr. Matheson briefly and had not interacted with him for nearly twenty years). I have to give them props for the realistic way Karen (and Val) figured out the letter was a fake--indeed, such a letter written at that time in Anne's life would be full of flower-y prose about their beautiful baby, and it wasn't.
     
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    Thanks for reminding me of that @Daniel Avery . I seem to have forgotten a lot of details about the later seasons of the show.

    Tonight it was "Truth will out"...

    Olivia and Lilimae survived the car crash but Lilimae got a broken arm. She alerted Abby of that Olivia was still using drugs. So now it begins. The scene where Lilimae tried to convince a guilt ridden Olivia to give her the drugs she was keeping in her bag was really touching. But Olivia is far too addicted to give it up. :(

    Poor Abby dealing with her daughter's problem. Somehow I think she and Gary should have nipped this in the bud earlier but they have been too preoccupied with Peter and Jill to properly notice Olivia and her problems.

    Poor Laura is pregnant and Greg is treating her really badly. He is not happy about "the accident that they are responsible for" at all.

    Paige has deceived Mack and Karen. She tells them a fake story about a car accident that Mack believes but Karen gets suspicious. Eventually after realizing that Paige has lied to them Mack calls up the Winstons and gets a shock when he hears that Anne is still alive!:omg:

    But yeah really great drama tonight. :clap:
     
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    And the great drama continues...

    Tonight it was "No Miracle Worker"...

    That special episode that had some of the most memorable Knots moment.

    Mack goes off to New York and finally comes face to face with the love from his youth - Anne. It was refreshing to see her after only seeing the flashbacks.
    But yeah Karen doesn't know what she's asking for when she sent Mack to talk to Anne.

    Karen tries to be cool about it but her insecurities comes out in that scene when she asks Val if she is fat and the two of them pulls out her sweater. :lol:
    Great moment and very realistic scene.

    Yet the main plot of the episode was Olivia's drug addiction. This was the episode when Abby locked herself in with Olivia at home and tried to watch her every minute to keep her from doing drugs and yet she succeeded in doing them. It wasn't until Brian got beaten up for not having the money that Olivia finally hit her rock bottom and caved in and gave the drugs to Abby saying that she was sorry. It was all very dramatic and superb acting by Tonya Crowe, Donna Mills, Julie Harris and Brian Austin Green in the scenes surrounding this. Especially Donna and Tonya got a chance to really shine in tonight's episode. :bravo:

    I think this might have been the season that Tonya won the Soap Opera Digest Award as favorite supporting actress...

    Somehow that scene when Abby knocked a whole in the wall with a hammer has stuck in my mind. I felt sorry for Abby. Heck even Lilimae felt sorry for Abby. So yeah great drama. :10:
     
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    Tonight it was "Nightmare"...

    Jean Hackney and her goon finally gets what's coming to them when Mack and Greg outsmarts them and I assume arrest them. They eliminate the threat so Ben can return home to his family. :)

    But while Ben is missing and Val believes he is dead she loses it and tries to buy a gun. When she is not allowed to buy one since she has to wait 15 days she goes out to Gary's ranch and steals his grandfather's gun. She probably would have killed an innocent cleaning lady too if Gary hadn't stopped her just in time. :eck:

    I don't know why but whenever Val is in trouble Gary is the only one who is always there for her. In this episode tonight she even told him that if Ben was dead and something happened to her she wanted him to raise the twins.

    The best line of the episode was probably Abby's when she moves out of the ranch and tells Jill "The first Mrs. Ewing doesn't go away ever!" :D
    I love that line. It's so memorable and it's spot on too since Gary stands Jill up even though they are supposed to get married and goes after Val instead.

    Yet at this point it seems to me like Val is actually over Gary. She is more concerned about Ben and doesn't seem to mind that much that Gary is going to marry Jill. She even wishes Jill well.

    At the end of the episode Ben wakes up from a nightmare where Jean Hackney kills Val. You can see on his face that the nightmare is not over yet.
     
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    That dream sequence always seemed like DS and JvA enjoyed it a bit too much--that is, all the shoot-em-ups and JVA getting to play a death scene.

    Favorite line, from Greg to Jean when they caught her: "Actually, I was not that glad to see you; it really was a gun in my pocket."
     
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