Robert Wagner Now A 'person Of Interest' In Natalie Wood's Death

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  1. Willie Oleson

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    Did someone just get away with something....?:think:
     
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    They're really quite chilling, all told.

    As an aside, I don't think I've heard Natalie speak before. The vocal fry surprised me, particularly in the first interview, dated 1980. I suppose I'd built up a kind of idea of how I thought she would sound after all these years seeing only pictures of her.
     
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    Willie, I have watched a few interviews with her and her co-stars, and there is a constant in her career: directors very often asked her to do water-related scenes: in bathtubs, rivers, shipwrecks and so on. I´m sure everybody in Hollywood knew about her fear of water (or of dying drowned, better said) but even so, the demands kept coming. I can´t help but chilling when I think of the (censored) argument with the mother at the bathroom and the river scene in "Splendor in the Grass", the very sexy love-making in the sea with William Devane in the TV version of "From Here to Eternity", or the ship sinking in "The Memory of Eva Ryker".

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    Right now I can´t remember anything like this in her last movie "Brainstorm", though there was a scene by the beach, I seem to recall. She also filmed scenes in a boat in "The Star" (when she was a teenager) and, well, inside an empty pool in "Rebel Without a Cause", ahem. One of the most intense homoerotic scenes in movie history, by the way...

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    There is a quite good biographical miniseries about her titled "The Mystery of Natalie Wood" with a fantastic actress called Justine Waddell playing her. Natalie´s hydrophobia is handled in it too, and overall the movie is a true character study and a condemn to Hollywood´s harassment and "casting couch" policy that is even more valid 13 years after its release. She was constantly pressured by directors to do things she really didn´t want to do on screen, and even had to get drunk to play one of the scenes in "This Property Is Condemned".

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    She truly was the last classic movie star...


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    I just found this pic on line and thought you might be as surprised to see it as moi...Does that staircase remind you of any other...?
     
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    Really? I'm not catching any vocal fry.
     
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    I was actually kidding about the only-wood-that-doesn't-float joke. I doubt RJ said it.

    However, if Lana and/or the captain isn't lying about the story of Wagner taunting Natalie in the water by telling the captain to let them "teach her a lesson" by letting her splash around, knowing full well she couldn't swim, and then she went under --- that may not be murder per se but surely some lesser womanslaughter kind of crime.

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    I wasn't referring to him.:lol:
     
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    There's also the scene in REBEL where she looks for a moment as if she might jump from the cliff to the water below where Corey Allen is now swimming with the fishes after the chicken run with Dean.

    Somehow, it may be the most chilling of all these premonitory movie scenes, because she seems to be looking ahead, almost consciously, into the future.

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    Oh, funny, I thought this was Elizabeth Taylor in the '70s...

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    Must be Natalie's and Elizabeth's shared Libra Rising (although recent charts on the net have shifted Taylor to a Sag Rising --- as if.... Sun in Pisces/Moon in Scorpio -- are you listening @Toni ? --- that's Tammy Faye Bakker when you slap a Sag Rising on it, but not Elizabeth... Sure, they share a ranting neurosis, but Taylor did it with intelligence and style, unlike poor TFB). Taylor's looks, star quality, hangdog face and eyes when she was heavy, vocal trill, she's the very definition of Libra Rising. It's why everybody thought she seemed like Vivien Leigh's daughter (they didn't even have to reshoot long shots when Taylor replaced Leigh in ELEPHANT WALK) -- they were also both Libra Rising (although most charts cite the "sunset" birthtime which gives Leigh another Rising sign, but she was actually born around 3AM).

    Rising sign data is so volatile.

    Also, Libra Rising are the most famous murder victims of the zodiac, with Aries Rising coming in second. And, as I stated above, Natalie was a Sun in Cancer/Libra Rising/Moon in Taurus just like the Lindbergh baby.
     
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    Wagner will be 88 on Saturday... :eck:

    Natalie would have been 80 this summer.

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    Buzzfeed's silly-ish analysis of the story:

     
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    Natalie Wood would have turned 80 a week ago. So sister Lana is out and about pimping her latest "RJ killed Natalie" version.

    I prefer the scenario where they'd had a fight, Natalie went out to the dinghy and slipped, and RJ taunted her as she splashed around and then she accidentally drowned as a result.

    It's more tragic than the boring old "he murdered her" explanation.

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