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Sarah Curtis - best Dynasty character ever?

Discussion in 'Dynasty' started by tommie, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Matthew Blaisdel

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    It's all about the money.
     
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    It likely has to do with what their agents asked for and what they thought their clients could get.
     
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    The importance of Cassie Yates is only surpassed by the importance of Katy Kurtzman.....
     
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    The guy doing these opening credit for Cassie must have thought "oh man, what's next, a titel card for Jack the gardener?" :D

    And by the way, i'm still pissed that Ray Abruzzo didn't get one in season 9! :mad:
    Huge mistake imo, because i think from episode 2 onwards he's been in every episode and his character has been of quite importance!
     
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  5. Ked

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    Agreed. Seriously, why DIDN'T he get one? Sarah Curtis gets one, but Zorelli, the very cop who's trying to put Blake in jail AND beds Fallon, DOESN'T get a freakin' title card?
     
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    I suppose it also depends on whether the actor has done much primetime tv before - a newbie or someone only known for daytime soaps is less likely to be able to negotiate one than someone more established.

    For example, Susan Scannell didn't get one despite (whatever you think of her character) living in the mansion and being (almost) married to Jeff!
     
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    I guess... but Susan wasn't around for very long. But then again, Linda Gray didn't have a title card in the first season of Dallas, so maybe, had there been a season 10, Zorelli would have gotten one.
     
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  8. tommie

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    Re: opening credit - it's a contract thing and likely what their agent negotiated for them. I'd assume someone like Cassie Yates was promised to get paid for a certain amount of episodes no matter if they decided to use her or not while Ray Abruzzo was considered "recurring" and would only get paid for the episodes they decided to use him. I guess the exception to this is Joan, but I guess they wanted to keep the illusion going that she was in every episode of season nine when she only was contracted to do 13... same thing with Linda only being contracted to do six but was in the credits for eight episodes that season.
     
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    Right, except that the leads aren't going to be denied an opening credit unless they've left permanently.

    The producers threatened to not give Joan a credit for the massacre aftermath episode she went AWOL during in a contract dispute. But once the episode aired, she got her credit.
     
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    It would have been awesome if JC didn't have the credit for the season 6 opener, as everyone would be in shock that Alexis got "killed"! :eek: :D
    Despite the fact that she really didn't deserve one for her behaviour there! It's your damn job Lady, so do what you get paid for!! [​IMG]
     
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    I sort of agree but I sort of don't.

    Everybody knew Joan was coming back, and that she was missing one episode over contract issues. It was all over the press at the time.

    And while Joan still had one year left on her contract, renegotiating mid-contract is routine for a #1 show and you're playing the key character. And she was still making shockingly little money to be the de facto Queen of Television -- which indeed she'd been for essentially three years.

    So she walked. I don't blame her. She was mostly right. She was the biggest draw on the show, and a year later, were the ratings to drop, she might be in less of a position to negotiate.

    But here's where it gets tricky: John and Linda had no trouble at all getting their raised. But Spelling made it harder for Joan, probably because -- even though he knew DYNASTY had to have her -- Joan was not known for being terribly nice to her co-workers. Something Spelling did not respect (unlike some moguls, who admire that kind of behavior). Linda and John were nice to everybody.

    As Forsythe once said, if Aaron likes you, you're pretty much home free. (And my instinct is that Aaron was probably pretty astute about people, even though I don't always like his work).

    Aaron made her crawl. I can't blame him for that and I can't blame her.

    [​IMG]
     
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  12. Alexis

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    The tacky little shit.
     
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    I'm not big on defending Joan. Nor Aaron.

    They both have their drawbacks.

    What's ironic is that for all the moguls and power players who were mean to her because she was too soft and nice earlier in her career, the kinds of people who wouldn't "respect" you unless you fought, Joan chose to pull the diva crap (haunted by those warnings in her youth that "you must pull rank!") while employed by a man who, quietly, wasn't impressed by that kind of selfishness.

    A lot of Joan's bitchy behavior is an act, an act she took on once Alexis skyrocketed, to convey stature, so people will take her seriously. Deep down, she's not that hard and mean. But she's learned a lot of the wrong lessons when she saw terrible people in the "golden age" rewarded for their awful behavior and even get the good press.

    Also, she's got it backwards: Bette Davis and Joan Crawford were shits who pretended to be nice; Collins is basically nice but pretends to be a shit.

    I'm not sure that works.

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    Who, Joan or "Alexis"?
    Alexis, or any other iconic tv character, is not just a creation, it's also a business. I often had the idea that they wanted to protect and/or promote that business.
    To give that character an air of reality or credibility, as it were.
    Well at least that's why I thought those "crossover" appearances looked so phony.
    Which is not a justification for ridiculing other people in public, btw.
     
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    And I have always known that. I mean she took the time to personally sign and return a ton of stuff that I sent to her. It wasn't one pic, it was many and actual scripts! Who does that?
     
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    I hope you didn't overdo it.
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    I wrote the accompanying cover note on handmade, (not by my hand) paper made from rose petals. I hoped she's appreciate that.
     
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    And what did you write?
    "Sign! All of it! NOW!!!" ? :D
     
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    Of course, they claimed Crawford was equally accommodating... :innocent:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Sarah is obviously still a character we ALL miss!!!! <3 <3 <3
     
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