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So is Cliff still in jail in Mexico? Did he die there? Did Christopher really die?

Discussion in 'Dallas TNT' started by MarkSinacori, Mar 6, 2017.

  1. MarkSinacori

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    Why? Why didn't they close the show up the right way?
     
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    They weren't planning on being cancelled, despite everyone seeing the strong possibility months in advance.
     
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    Ken probably won't live into his 90s. He's early 80s now. He has aged a lot. It's sad they couldn't close this up the right way. Always have to end it the same way with all the shows that get cancelled.
     
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    Once he started aging, he aged quickly, not unlike Amanda Blake.
     
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    I agree that the show's ending sucked! :(
    I wanted Cliff to get out of jail. I got so mad when CC said Cliff and Harris would get out of jail fast and only Harris did. That was ridiculous.
     
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    No, none of that happened because no one in their right mind thinks of this as a real continuation of the original Dallas. It goes in the same junk drawer where "Who Killed Jock Ewing?" is.
     
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    I hated that they turned Cliff into an evil person. His hatred for the Ewings should have deluded by now. JR and Bobby were not in the oil business. The writers ignored the fact that Cliff ended the Barnes-Ewing Feud when he had that meeting with Ellie at the park.

    Not only that blowing up a platform with people on it is bad enough but when your pregnant daughter on it makes him a monster.
     
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    I think that Pam dreamed everything that happened after the Ewing Oil explosion at the Dream Season cliffhanger. Thus we got rid of the nonsense exits of VP, Susan Howard, BBG et al. And yes, she also dreamed both TVM´s and TNT Dallas, but in different nights. Not even Pam can have a multiverse dream...

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    I also hated the way Cliff got screwed over in the new show. There was only one good moment, when he came to see his daughter and John Ross was hiding behind the sofa. Then he was like the old Cliff.

    Then as for the Barnes-Ewing feud, let's not forget that it started back up again towards the end of the show when Cliff quit his job at Ewing Oil to head that commission looking into the tanker accident and then he ended up with Ewing Oil in the very end. So the feud wasn't really over.
     
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    As long Ken Kercheval is alive, Cliff's still in prison. Christopher's also alive. He must be. What were they thinking killing off Christopher? The whole show was based on his rivalry with John Ross, as it was with Bobby and J.R. in the old show. Killing off such an important character is a SIN, Thia!!!
     
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    I enjoyed that scene, too. So funny how John Ross had to hurry and dive under there!

    But I still believe that the feud should have been over. Sure, maybe Cliff could be a little snarky with the Ewings, but to turn into a monster like that and to have no life outside of it, especially after JR's death, was unbelievable.
     
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    And since the show was supposed to be about the next generation of characters, Ewings in particular, it made no sense whatsoever to kill off Christopher.
     
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    Poor judgement on everyone involved. Questions must have been asked about the dwindling drop in ratings. Why was Cynthia & Co., granted $100,000 just to blow up a car. The honey question, "A Ewing Will Die" was a thoughtless plan in the hope viewers (in their zillions) would suddenly develop a taste for Cynthia & Co's plot driven catastrophe.

    Despite everyone now writing their version of life after TNT Dallas the reality is we're left with the vision Christopher died in that explosion, Cliff has been left in gaol (jail) and JR had a secret daughter.

    I doubt very much if we will see another resurrection of Dallas in my lifetime to restore an semblance that rivals those first several seasons of Lorimar Dallas.
     
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    I love how moron (AKA Cynthia) had to ask for extra cash to film her additional cliffhanger.

    Well done Gareth!
     
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    And to add further insult to the Dallas brand Cynthia & Co., were going to inflict us with a secret daughter. Had she completed her homework she would have discovered other Ewing's just itching to make their grand appearance; Lucas, Margaret (¼ Ewing blood), James and the child Cally had. Was JR or James the father? I could easily have forgiven the writers if a wild child of Lucy's had popped up. Anything to drown out those interlopers (Ramos family) who presided over Southfork as if it was their own.
     
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    And this daughter was not even supposed to be from anyone we knew. The plan was to introduce her so that they could also have her family be major characters. As if we didn't have enough problems with the Ramos and Ryland families taking away footage from the Ewing and practically non-existent Barnes family! Great, let's just introduce even MORE characters that I could care less about! Not!
     
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    I'm probably in the minority when I say I liked Judith Ryland, but only in those early scenes. When Bobby visits the Ryland mansion and we're first introduced to Judith her opening dialogue, "My son isn't home," was delivered pitch perfect. There was something unsettling about her, the way she delivered her lines. My initial reaction to Judith Light playing such a character surprised me. Just a real pity the writers unhinged her.
     
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    I had no problems with the Rylands minus how Emma was introduced but what I did not like where the Ramos family and how they were the main focus.
     
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    The story from Cynthia Cidre was the mother was long dead. I hazard to think what character Cynthia & C.o would have killed off to justify their draw-dropping plot. Perhaps it was the offspring of JR & Katherine after all since Cynthia had Bobby kill her off mid sentence.
     
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    Such a strange concept considering the Ryland's only contact with the Ewing family was through Ann. I didn't mind her character, just didn't approve of her back-story since it distracted from the main event, the Ewing family. Though a lot has been said about Bobby and Ann I considered Brenda Strong a natural fit. I thought she had good chemistry with Patrick Duffy and in particular with Linda Gray, although their scenes were few and far between. The on-going issue with TNT Dallas was the pacing was too fast paced compared to Lorimar Dallas, it had the luxury of extended seasons.
     
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