The Colbys, Dominique & Their Future

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  1. ChrisSumner

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    As of now I have no spoilers so I didn't put a spoiler tag on this, but if something changes I'll update the thread to warn people! I just wanted to see everybody's thoughts when it comes to the Colbys. I personally grew to love them and the portrayal not only as black, but blacks of African descent and their wild, glam fashion choices. I feel Monica and Jeff are the two most under developed characters on the show, but the potential is definitely there.

    When season one ended we of course learned that their mother, obviously Dominique is Blake's sister. I often felt in season one that this family lacked an anchor. Soaps are generational and not having that type of background limits what you can do with Jeff and Monica as we've seen. One way they could've put off Dominique's arrival is actually by integrating them into the Carrington family, instead we have this stuff with the Van Kirk's.

    In the episode three thread there's discussion about how this show throws out twists but rarely follows up which is the thing that most bothers me. I like most of the storylines, I like how they're reinterpreted the characters and I do enjoy the twists, but on a soap a twist has to serve a purpose. If you continue to throw out twists with no pay off then the audience becomes numb to them and loses interest. Of course they're early into the season so they certainly have time to correct things, but looking at the episode descriptions for the next few episodes it seems like this particular story is still on the backburner.

    What would yall like to see happen with The Colby's and potentially Dominque?
     
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    Just get rid of them. It's pretty clear that the writers are not really that invested in them to begin with and they have been largely replaced by the Van Kirks. I think having them be half-Carringtons actually ruined any potential they might have had as characters because it basically limits them character wise, story wise and narrative wise. And personality wise, they are also pretty awful. I mean, Monica has to be the worst "best friend" on the entire planet to end up believing Kirby over the woman she supposedly calls her sister.
     
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    I think the show is too "full" right now to give any justice to the arrival of Dominique. I think they have too much going on as it is. It would help new viewers (or "samplers") if they would focus instead on one or two stories (and the essential characters needed in that story) per episode rather than having every single character appear in every episode to 'check in' on all the stories. New viewers see these large party scenes and think "Who's that? Should I know who Fallon just spoke to? Is that character someone important?" when it might just as easily be an unnamed extra.

    They can't even come up with legitimate reasons for Jeff to be around, and he's supposed to be an important part of the canvas (judging by his position in the opening titles). I'd hold off on bringing Dominique into the mix until there is a shortage of characters to drive stories--a problem they do not have at the moment.
     
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    Where is NuDynasty's incest? How about some Jeff & Monica sex?
     
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    Considering how two-dimensional they are, it would look someone using a pair of scissors.
     
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    Exactly. I'd wait until the Liam/Van Kirks, Hank and Melissa storylines are fully wrapped before introducing a potentially "big" character like Dominique. Otherwise she'd risk being sidelined almost immediatly and we'd have a repeat situation of what happened on the original show.
     
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    Come on, what bigger homage to DYNASTY than to bring a big name to play Dominique and then just watch her waste away?
     
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    Oprah! And then do absolutely NOTHING with her! :D
     
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    I'm also in favour of removing the Colby clan. Time to focus attention on the Carrington family and let the others become secondary or pawns to the main event. I'm not sure why so many think the imminent arrival of Dominique would somehow create renewed interest in what is an already low rating series. I can recall many (on this site) just itching for the arrival of Alexis...and look how that has played out. We've just been introduced to Cristal Jennings and await to see how the writers will pair her and Blake together. I then want to watch how Alexis will react. Throwing in Dominique will just be another distraction.
     
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  10. ChrisSumner

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    The problem is, they continue to introduce new characters and stories so when would the right time be? Especially now with Steven’s paternity which is bound to get an immediate spotlight. You can’t keep introducing things without dealing with the problems you’ve already created.
     
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    Unfortunately I think that the CW and Netflix have found a cushy deal with Peach Dynasty--the CW gets the fee money back from Netflix and the series costs less for Netflix to air than one of its own. As a result, though the show is beyond the bottom of the ratings, nobody cares.

    But as to the Colby clan, though the show has actually made them a branch of the Carringtons, in the original they were an important element, and when the show made the mistake of killing Cecil, the show faced a dead-end soon. And let's not forget they created a whole extension out of thin air for the spin-off. So they are important to the DYNASTY myth, yet I agree that the show may simply not do anything worthwhile with Dominique.
     
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    I don't see the purpose of the Colbys. They seemed interesting but now they make no sense. I like Kirby and looking to see where they do with her character.
     
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    Chris I quoted your post because it's now the 2nd week of January and I thought this is interesting as you stated Steven's paternity is bound to receive the immediate spotlight. Well, nothing much come from it. No sooner was it announced Anders was the father of Steven he takes off.

    This is what I find frustrating with the reboot. The writers are dropping plot bombs but are not revisiting the story of their own making. The same could be said of Blake and Alexis getting cosy in the bedroom. Nothing has been discussed since. If this scenario had occured in original Dynasty it would have had lasting effects on the overall series.
     
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    I’ll admit I gave them too much credit lol. It just amazes me because I do enjoy the show and love all these twists, but they go nowhere. Even the ones you think will propel story (like Steven’s paternity) still go nowhere. They’re sitting on so many goldmines for material but for whatever reason they ignore it.
     
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    How were they replaced by the Van Kirks? We saw uncle Van Kirk like twice. Mama Van Kirk once. Liam had even changed his name. And all 3 are gone.
     
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    Actually Liam will be back in "The Sight of You", the eleventh episode of season 2. ;)
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    That was when I thought that there was going to be some significant focus on them and they were going to turn out to be the new featured family on the show besides the Carringtons. Obviously it didn't really turn out that way. I still am not quite sure what long term plans the writers may have for the Van Kirks, if anything.
     
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    It's pretty clear that they are building up towards Dominique right now.
     
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    Do you mean as of the return from winter break? I haven’t seen the latest episode but don’t recall anything prior suggesting she could be arriving.
     
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    The latest episode is pretty much suggestive that Dominique's coming.

    On a related note - I do like how they're building a universe here; not only Dominique, but Adam and Mark Jennings are potentially coming. That's not to say Steven and Crazy Claudia won't be back in the fold. It's pretty unpredictable.
     
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