SoapLand - The Battle Of The Rivalries - The Result

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  1. Richard Channing

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    They drive much of the drama in Soapland and, whether it be in business or in love, we love a good rivalry.

    But which two rivals brought the drama the best? Which wars waged and scores settled had you hooked? We're looking for two individuals rather than families or companies, so your votes should be someone vs someone. But certainly feel free to include some of the more contentious characters in more than one of your pairings.

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    Feuds, battles, rivalries. What better way to get us all in the mood for Christmas?

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  2. Willie Oleson

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    Since it takes two to feud, I picked the characters who disliked eachother equally.

    1. DALLAS: JR Ewing vs. Cliff Barnes - the most notorious feud of all the prime time soaps.
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    2. THE COLBYS: Sable Colby vs. Constance Patterson
    Even before things started to spiral out of control, there seemed to be some kind of "misunderstanding" about who was supposed to rule the roost in the Colby Household.
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    3. FALCON CREST: Angela Channing vs. Richard Channing
    Personally, I enjoyed the battle between Angela and Chase more, but Chase didn't want to destroy Angela and he didn't want to take anything that wasn't rightfully his.
    Therefore, the feud felt more one-sided.
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    4. THE COLBYS: Jeff Colby vs. Miles Colby
    They had every reason to fight, but saying the wrong word or giving the other a bad look was enough to spark animosity.
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    5. KNOTS LANDING: Laura Avery vs. Abby Fairgate
    Not a feud in the classic sense of the word, but it was obvious that they would never be friends.
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  3. Daniel Avery

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    1. Laura Avery and Abby Ewing, Knots Landing
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    Abby kind of started it by sleeping with Laura's husband, though Richard deserves a large share of the blame for that. The "You are so simple/You are such a slut" showdown in the kitchen might not have featured fur coats or a staircase (or even a lily pond), but it set their relationship to "frost" permanently. Laura seemed to enjoy being a thorn in Abby's side at Lotus Point, and of course flaunting the fact that her second husband Greg made Abby's second husband look positively middle class in comparison. Greg's love for Laura made it impossible for wicked, wicked Abby to worm her way into Greg's heart even when she managed to worm her way into his bed after Laura's premature demise. In her video will, Laura made a point of mentioning Abby--just to re-iterate that she had nothing to say to her. So even as Abby outlived their feud, she didn't get the last word!

    2. Karen MacKenzie and Abby Ewing, Knots Landing
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    This feud went back decades, but it probably would not have existed at all if Abby had not always lived up (or down) to Karen's expectations. Abby had wanted to be the center of her brother's attention, so when Sid married Karen and they ultimately moved away, Abby must have resented Karen for "taking away" the brother who had raised her. Abby's selfishness always brought Karen's disapproving gaze (among other things), and once Sid died, there was nothing to stop these two from saying out loud what they really thought of one another. To Karen, Abby was a money-grubbing tramp. To Abby, Karen was a self-righteous hypocrite. Or at least that's what they wrote on each other's Christmas cards.

    3. Ruth Galveston and Laura Avery Sumner, KL
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    Talk about quality over quantity! Their rivalry might not have had the longevity of the others, but it was intense. The manipulations, the mean-spirited quips...I wondered if they left scorch marks on the furniture at the ranch. Laura appeared to win again, though one has to wonder how long she would have prevailed if Greg had not sent his mother packing. And whether there would have been any furniture left.

    4. Mack MacKenzie and Greg Sumner, KL
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    Just so you don't think all the strife was just between the women....this rivalry was fascinating to me because there was this thin veneer of actual friendship through much of their problems. Through Mack's bellowing and Greg's scheming there was still an air that they might have a friendly beer together the next day, then yell at one another again a day later. And while the ladies mostly just disapproved of one another's tactics, Mack and Greg's final drift apart occurred over the daughters they both "shared". Mack pushed Greg away from his family once Meg became part of it, and Greg stopped treating Mack like a "buddy" after becoming serious about Paige, Mack's daughter. Greg could not figure out his feelings for Meg nor Paige, while Mack feared his friend had the potential to ruin his biological and adoptive daughters' lives just by "being Greg".

    5. Claudia Whittaker and Anne Matheson, KL
    [​IMG] "I hope she chokes on it!"

    The way they expressed their disdain for one another was much more 1990s than 1980s, with "thought wars" scenes rather than slaps and hair pulls. But the roots of their rivalry went back to the 1960s. It was a manufactured rivalry rather than something we saw develop, but the ladies still relished their put-downs and I loved how they had each other's number even as the majority of the people around them had no idea the two ladies had so many skeletons in their closets.

    Honorable Mention: Angela Channing and that 'lavender dragon' Zhahhh-kleen' Perrault, Falcon Crest.
     
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    Only 5 votes for Knots Landing, Dalek?:cool1

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    I would have done ten, but I was busy with other things....ooh, speaking of Ten....

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    What exactly is that thing? I've never seen it before.
     
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    1- JR Ewing vs. Cliff Barnes (Dallas)


    2- Angela Channing vs. Jacqueline Perrault (Falcon Crest)


    3- Valene Ewing vs. Abby Ewing (Knots Landing)



    (To Be Continued)
     
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    4- Pam Ewing vs. JR Ewing (Dallas)


    5- Fallon Carrington Colby vs. Krystle Carrington (Dynasty)

    Honorable mentions:

    - Katherine vs. Cliff & Pam (Dallas)
    - Angela vs. Melissa (FC)
    - Angela vs. Richard vs. Chase (FC)
    - Abby vs. Karen (KL)
    - Sable vs. Constance (The Colbys)
    - Alexis vs. Krystle (Dynasty)
     
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    How could I forget the feuding FC matrons?:eek:

    Unforgivable! I ought to hang my head in shame:oops:
     
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    1. JR vs Cliff (Dallas)
    2. JR vs Pam (Dallas)
    3. Angela vs Richard (FC)
    4. Alexis vs Krystle (Dynasty)
    5. Abby vs Valene (KL)
     
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    I must admit, I wish I had remembered them as well when I was compiling my list. They definitely deserve an honorable mention.
     
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    1. JR Ewing vs Cliff Barnes - DALLAS
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    2. Angela Channing vs Melissa Agretti - FALCON CREST
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    3. Titus Semple vs Lane Ballou - FLAMINGO ROAD
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    4. Alexis Colby vs Krystle Carrington - DYNASTY
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    5. Angela Channing vs Jacqueline Perrault - FALCON CREST
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  13. Alexis

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    I will do mine either tonight or tomorrow. Rival that!
    Anyways, I also don't really agree that Alexis and Krystle on Dynasty had a rivalry. It was very one sided. I don't think Krystle really gave Alexis much thought as long as she wasn't in her house or trying to insinuate that she and Blake were an item. Alexis hated Krystle but did Krystle really hate Alexis? I don't think so. And she didn't even care enough to try and one-up her. Alexis was an annoyance to Krystle, sometimes slight sometimes major, but not a rival.
    Now Sable on the other hand was a rival to Alexis. In business and in social/personal relations.
     
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    Alexis and Sammy Jo weren't bosom buddies either, although Krystle and Steven suffered the most from Sammy Jo's villainy.

    If I had to pick one from Dynasty I'd say Blake & Matthew. Or maybe Blake & Cecil? After all it was jealousy that killed him.
     
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  15. Richard Channing

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    I'm a little surprised nobody has mentioned Alexis vs Blake yet, which will be high up on my list.
     
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    The vast majority of the mentions thus far have been woman-vs.-woman, with a few man-vs.-man...but very few woman-vs.-man. Hmm....o_O
     
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    Interesting round, this one. I’ve (mostly) steered away from feuds or love rivals, which I see as a different animal. Some of my rivals fall into those categories too, and some may have started that way. But I think rivalries are more complex, frequently less overt (bystanders will not often understand why the two are rivals) and come down to the two personalities involved. They also have to operate on numerous levels. Many of them are based on status, and often more specifically the fear of losing it. They may like, respect or even love the other, but they’ll never lose that need to score points over or outdo the other.



    1. Karen and Abby
    Knots Landing


    2. Sable and Connie
    The Colbys


    3. JR and Bobby
    Dallas


    4. Fallon and Sammy Jo
    Dynasty


    5. Anne and Claudia
    Knots Landing






    Honourable mentions:


    Jeff and Miles
    The Colbys

    Steven and Adam
    Dynasty

    Laura and Abby
    Knots Landing

    Alexis and Dominique
    Dynasty

    Sue Ellen and Pam
    Early Dallas
     
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    1) Cliff versus J.R. - DALLAS.
    2) Krystle versus Alexis - DYNASTY.
    3) Angela versus Richard - FALCON CREST.
    4) Pam versus J.R. - DALLAS.
    5) Angela versus Jacqueline - FALCON CREST.


    The family are having after dinner drinks, in the Southfork living room. Pam contradicts J.R. about the merits of one of his latest oil deals. This is the year Bobby and J.R. are each striving to win control of the company their father founded, as per the instructions of Jock's last will and testament, (a scene from season 5; DVD - 6, 1982 - '83):

    J.R. is looking at Jock's portrait and then he addresses Pam: "Pamela when it comes to the oil business you are less of an expert than that unstable brother of yours."

    Bobby shouts over at him: "J.R.!"
     
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    1. Cliff and JR's rivalry in Dallas.
    2. Pamela and JR's rivalry in Dallas.
    3. The rivalry between Krystle and Alexis in Dynasty.
    4. Angela and Richard as rivals in Falcon Crest.
    5. The rivalry of Valene and Abby in Knots Landing.
     
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    1. Abby and Val (Knots Landing)
    2. Karen and Abby (Knots Landing)
    3. Angela and Richard (Falcon Crest)
    4. Blake and Alexis (Dynasty)
    5.JR and Cliff (Dallas)
     
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