World Cup Tournament The World Cup of 80s Prime Time Soap Characters

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  1. Ome

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    Crap! I really didn't want to see Cliff against Val!


    Match 7 - Krystle Carrington
    Match 8 - Valene Ewing
     
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  2. Willie Oleson

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    The first vote can be the deciding factor so I better hurry up.

    1. Krystle Carrington (I want to keep Dynasty in the game for as long as possible)
    2. Valene Ewing (because Dallas still has 4 players, and Knots only 3)
     
    Willie Oleson, Nov 19, 2018
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    OK, in essence that doesn't change anything, but since we posted at exactly the same time, my post (CET) really is the first post.:D
     
    Willie Oleson, Nov 19, 2018
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    Michelle Stevens 'The Lovely Michelle'

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    Match 7- Karen MacKenzie
    Match 8- Cliff Barnes
     
    Michelle Stevens, Nov 19, 2018
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    :lolling::lolling::lolling:
     
    Ome, Nov 19, 2018
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    1. Karen
    2. Cliff
     
    Victoriafan3, Nov 19, 2018
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    Haha, but it's the kind of argument they'd use on THE GOOD WIFE:cool1
     
    Willie Oleson, Nov 19, 2018
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    M7: Karen
    M8: Cliff
     
    Zable, Nov 19, 2018
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    Match Seven
    Well, it's like against like. Both their respective series' truth speakers who started off grounded but became a little more pious with each passing year. Match Eight has dictated who gets my vote here, but if I were to justify my choice it would be because Karen's piety was more overwrought than Krystle's and was enabled by her husband, making Karen one half of the Circle's own omniscient duo. Thinking of Karen watching those home movies makes me want to change my mind, but as I've vowed not to abstain it's time for the rose-tinted spectacles to come off and the plates to fly...
    Krystle Carrington



    Match Eight
    Like Ome, I was hoping it wouldn't be between these two as I have a soft spot for both. They're both interesting characters, but Val was at the centre of some of Knots's most powerful stories and I feel she fulfilled her dramatic potential more due to being better written. So it's...
    Valene Ewing






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    Mel O'Drama, Nov 19, 2018
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    Match 7 - Krystle Carrington: Match 8 is a no brainer for me, so Karen was unfortunately sacrificed in this match to allow Val's victory over Cliff. Not that I'm not a Krystle fan. She was great in her early seasons and even when she became a whingey wet rag as time progressed, she still had her moments.

    Match 8 - Val Ewing: Cliff is a bit of a nonentity in my mind. When I remember Dallas, he's somewhere near the bottom of the pile of characters I recall fondly, with even the likes of Jenna and Jamie making more of an impression on me. What can I say, it seems to be the ladies of Dallas (and most other soaps) that made the biggest impression on me. Which brings us to Val. As I've said earlier, the Val's babies arc is one of my favourite storylines ever and while she eventually became "Poor Val", she really didn't take any sh*t from self pitying Gary and scheming Abby early on.
     
    Carrie Fairchild, Nov 19, 2018
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    Still could never vote (or watch) Linda Evans if you paid me :eck: so easy round for me

    1 Karen McKenzie
    2 Cliff Barnes
     
    Barbara Fan, Nov 19, 2018
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    Match 7: Karen
    Match 8: Cliff
     
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  13. Angela Channing

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    Yes! Yes! Yes!
     
    Angela Channing, Nov 19, 2018
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    Match 7 - I can't stand Krystle. Just everything about her was annoying from that whispery voice, the hairdo that looked like a pair of theatre curtains, to her insipid, whiney personality. Linda Evans limitations as an actress meant the character was never elevated into someone more interesting and she just slummed around in the world of bland. I used to say the only thing worse than Krystle was two Krystles and then my worst soap nightmare came true in season 6 when the arrival of Rita meant we were subjected to two badly acted versions of Krystle. Argh!!

    All the 80s prime time soaps had a key character that drove many storylines, not just the ones in which they played a major part. In Dallas it was JR, Falcon Crest had Angela and for me that person was Karen in Knots Landing. Easy choice to for me, my winner is Karen MacKenzie.

    Match 8 - Even if I could vote for Valene, I would still have voted for Cliff. I liked Val and the storyline of her snatched babies was the best in any season of Knots Landing. However, Cliff was such a great character the defeated who never gave up and ultimately came out on top. My winner is Cliff Barnes.
     
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    1. Karen
    2. Cliff
     
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    Match 7: Krystle Carrington
    Match 8: Valene Ewing
     
    Daniel Avery, Nov 19, 2018
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    Match 7: Krystle
    Match 8: Cliff

    Both characters became mere caricatures as the show went on (Krystle, especially) but they were invaluable in the early seasons (Krystle was the reason for DYNASTY in season 1).
     
    Michael Torrance, Nov 22, 2018
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    1. Krystle
    2. Cliff
     
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    This match is difficult for me since I don't want to chose between Valene and Karen. I love both characters. I love Cliff too and didn't want to see him vs. Valene. But I have to vote for my most favorite character out of the four so my vote goes to:

    1. Valene
    The journey this woman made on the show was amazing. Valene started out as a country girl with a thick accent and pony tails. She was very much like a little girl in the beginning who still had deep wounds from her past. She missed her mother. She missed her daughter and she loved Gary so much that she would accept bad behavior from him just to keep him. Then we saw her go on a journey where she grew stronger for each season that passed by. She forgave Lilimae and the two of them formed a mother-daughter relationship that they had been missing. Then Lilimae left and Valene became independent. She found success as a writer and yet she always put her children first. Her relationship with Gary remained complicated and had it's ups and downs but in the end love prevailed.

    I have decided not to vote in the first match since I far prefer Karen over Krystle so I won't vote against her.
     
    Karin Schill, Nov 22, 2018
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  20. Willie Oleson

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    But isn't that the challenge of this game, that you have to choose? And it's not a matter of life and death.
     
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