Discussion in 'UK & Rest of World Politics' started by Angela Channing, Sep 21, 2019.
...unprepared, isolated and now hiding from the mess they created.
Heard this morning that Boris' Brexit plan is going to plung the economy in Northern Ireland 'into the gutter'.
I despise the twat.
The Tory government doesn't care about Northern Ireland as shown by how they have allowed it to go without a government for over 2 years and how they have been prepared to rip up the Good Friday Agreement to get a Brexit deal that satisfies their own party's rabid right wing.
Agreed @Angela Channing i want Ireland to unite. We will just have to face the consequences.
A 2016 episode from the Jimmy Dore show from before the US presidential election:
Why Brexit Is Good For Working People In Clear, Simple Terms
His ‘featured’ expert is Mark Blyth of Scotland, who is professor of international political economy at Brown University on Rhode Island and the author of Austerity: The History of a Dangerous Idea.
He's an American citizen living and working in the US and so won't be directly affected by Brexit. The overwhelming majority of UK academics think Brexit will be disastrous for the UK.
Brexit: Universities warn no deal is 'biggest-ever threat'.
Are we to infer that in your opinion his professional opinion doesn’t count?
Ah, then it should be easy enough to find online lots and lots of articles by, or news reports on or about, UK-based academicians who support the theory that Brexit would be disastrous for the entire kingdom. In particular, I’d love to learn the contrary arguments of UK-based academicians in the same field of education as Prof Blyth, especially on the same talking points he mentions.
The heads of purportedly 150 UK universities think Brexit will be disastrous for their universities because of the threat to their research projects and standing, per that article at the link you gave. I hadn’t realised there were quite that many universities in the UK.
No, I was just pointing out that it is easy to say Brexit is wonderful when the full impact of the impending disaster is not going to affect him directly because he has chosen to live in another country. If he believes Brexit is so wonderful why has he chosen to leave Britain and live somewhere where he will be protected from the Brexit chaos?
Yes there are. The most comprehensive and detailed being the analysis carried out by the UK government itself which warned of post Brexit rises food and fuel prices, shortages of medical supplies and food and public disorder on Britain’s streets.
Ministers forced to publish documents predicting public disorder, rising prices and disruptions to food and medicines
There are and overwhelmingly they are saying Brexit will be bad for Britain.
I find it sickening that this witch has left NI without a government for 2 years but is now over in Westminster, lording it over everyone else.
Anyone with 2 brain cells should be running like hell from her and her bigoted party and not relying on them for anything. They are a national embarrassment.
In that photo she looks like the love child of Brian May and Myra Hindley.
It wouldn't surprise me if she was related to Myra.
A Brexit deal has been agreed between UK and EU negotiating teams before a meeting of European leaders in Brussels.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson tweeted: "We've got a great new deal that takes back control."
The two sides have been working on the legal text of a deal, but it will still need the approval of both the UK and European parliaments.
BBC chief political correspondent Vicki Young says the DUP will not support it.
She said senior DUP MPs have met in the Commons to discuss the deal, but will not vote for it.
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said the deal sounded "even worse" than what was negotiated by the PM's predecessor, Theresa May, and "should be rejected" by MPs.
But European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker said it was a "fair and balanced agreement".
Both he and Mr Johnson have urged their respective parliaments to back the deal.
No 10 sources have told the BBC's political editor Laura Kuenssberg that Mr Johnson will later ask EU leaders to reject requests for an extension to the Brexit deadline of 31 October.
MPs passed a law in September that requires the PM to request an extension on 19 October if Parliament has not agreed a deal or backed leaving without a deal by that date.
MPs will later vote on whether to hold an extra sitting in the Commons on Saturday to discuss the next steps.
Cabinet Office minister Michael Gove said if the sitting was approved, the government would hold a vote on the deal.
He said he was "not contemplating defeat", but if the plan did not get the backing of MPs, the alternative was leaving without a deal.
What is in the deal?
Mr Johnson's proposals for a new Brexit deal hinged on getting rid of the controversial backstop - the solution negotiated between Theresa May and the EU to solve issues around the Irish border after the UK leaves.
By removing it, he hoped to secure the support of Brexiteers in his own party and the DUP - which could hold the key to getting the numbers for a successful vote in the Commons.
The EU's chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, said the new deal rests on four main elements, that:
Northern Ireland will remain aligned to a limited set of EU rules, notably related to goods
Northern Ireland will remain in the UK's customs territory, but will "remain an entry point" into the EU's single market
There is an agreement to maintain the integrity of the single market and satisfy the UK's VAT concerns
Northern Ireland representatives will be able to decide whether to continue applying union rules in Northern Ireland or not every four years
Mr Barnier told a press conference in Brussels that the final point - allowing for votes in the Northern Ireland Assembly - was "a cornerstone of our newly agreed approach".
The decision would be based on a simple majority, rather than requiring a majority of both unionists and nationalists to support the rules in order for them to pass.
This is getting really embarrassing now and is all because Evil Arlene and her 'Britishness' must come before everyone and everything else.
Oh, I loved him in Press Gang.
aka Boris Johnson throwing Northern Ireland under a bus.
Yup. Absolutely sick of bigots, liars and those in this alleged UNITED Kingdom, not recognising that NI DID NOT VOTE for Brexit and that some of us do not identify as BRITISH (I hope Arlene spontaneously combusts in a fiery pit of flames).
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