Victoria - 40 years of Dallas

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  1. Barbara Fan

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    mine too Victoria - she has great taste and appreciates a great talent
    Still dont know where BBG got the strength to relive it once more, a very gutsy lady

    I agree, she was no push over and I love the fact that she didnt let them walk over her, back in the 80s and when it came to the TNT fiasco

    It was former forum member Tessie who sent me it! I love it too!
     
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  2. B.J. Ewing

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    Couldn’t decide between Agree and Funny, but your pony tail remark made you a Winner.
     
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    Thank you @B.J. Ewing :pals: it is pretty awful!! S N I P!
     
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  4. Karin Schill

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    Thanks for sharing the new articles. Reading that Victoria still speaks to fondly about her time on Dallas and the Bobby & Pam relationship put a big smile on my face. :)
     
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    Another great Victoria interview c/0 Tessie and with People magazine. Again what a bright, smart, intelligent women and yes Id kill to meet her!

    Victoria Principal, Now Rescuing Animals on Her California Ranch, Revisits Dallas 40 Years Later

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    Forty years have passed since the Ewing family first started bringing the drama in Dallas. When the show launched in April 1978, star Victoria Principal, who played Pamela Barnes, knew the series would go on to have a monumental run.

    “When I went in for the part on Dallas, I had already fallen in love with the show and with the part,” Principal, 68, tells PEOPLE. “So my feeling from the moment I read it was that it was incredibly special and that I really, really wanted to be a part of it. I could not imagine not being Pam.”

    Principal landed the role and spent nine years on Dallas.

    “The first five years were some of the best television I’ve ever seen,” she says. “And then after year seven, there was a definitive decline. At year seven, it was time for me to renegotiate my contract and I was very candid about my concern and my disappointment; that we had had such good writing and so many wonderful plots, and that when the time came to renegotiate the writers’ contracts, I felt that a number of writers had left because they had not gotten the right deal.”

    So after two more years on the hit drama, a pregnant Pamela died in a car accident. “I wanted an ending that was definitive,” the Japan-born actress says. “And I certainly felt that being blown up was definitive.”

    As Dallas continued for five more seasons, Principal went on to appear in numerous TV movies, some of which she produced through her production company, before stepping away to focus on her health and wellness projects. She wrote her first of four books, The Body Principal, in 1983, and launched her skincare company, Principal Secret, in 1991.

    “By the time I turned 50 I felt that I wanted to make a change in my life,” Principal says of ultimately leaving Hollywood after appearing in NBC’s Titans between 2000-01. “My interest had shifted in such a way that to not pursue my passion, which more and more really was my skincare company and creating products that could help many people.”

    Since 2012, Principal has had a ranch outside of Los Angeles where she rescues and rehabilitates animals. When TNT relaunched Dallas that same year — complete with original cast members Patrick Duffy, Larry Hagman, Steve Kanaly, and Linda Gray — Principal didn’t want to revisit Pam’s story.

    Aside from reuniting with her costars in 2004 for a CBS special, Principal hardly talks to fellow stars.

    “There were phone calls, but I didn’t really have get-togethers,” admits Principal. “We never hung out really anyway. We worked together and we had different lives. When I started the show Patrick was married and starting a family, Steve was married and starting a family, Larry was married with children, Linda was married with children. I was single. And so those are very different lifestyles.”

    But she’s thrilled that new generations are experiencing the iconic drama. “I’m happy, based up all the emails that I’ve gotten, that people are introducing their children or their grandchildren to Dallas,” Principal says. “I’m so excited that people continue to remember Dallas.”

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    Thanks for sharing that article from People magazine. It was great. :)

    Interesting how they refer to that Pam was pregnant when she died in the car crash though as I have never heard that before.

    Also Pam being blown up would have been more definite ending if they hadn't saved her and brought he to the hospital as a mummy for weeks. After they went through all that trouble to keep Pam alive on the show it really was a shame that Pam never came back since the door was definitely still open for her to return. :(
     
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    It's so creepy how she keeps getting asked if they "hung out together."

    NO! They didn't! Get over it!
     
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    They shot themselves in the foot by not killing Pam off.

    It's funny how the most interesting thing about Dallas since Pam went into the oil tanker, in terms of getting people talking, is the character of Pam and Victoria Principal's refusal to ever return to the role. We had the mummy figure in Season 11, Margaret Michaels briefly as Pam in the first episode of Season 12, a Pam lookalike named Jeanne O'Brien played by Margaret Michaels in Season 13, and then the whole speculation abound with TNT Dallas about whether Pam was coming back and then Victoria squashing all the rumours with one message. For somebody who left Dallas in 1987 and never returned, it's amazing how Victoria Principal and the character of Pam continued to be relevant even when she hadn't been in the show for so long.

    Plenty of people have said that they can't imagine Dallas without the villainous J.R. and I agree. I also can't imagine Dallas without Pam. These two represent the main moral conflicts going on in the show (Pam the moral centre who always tries to do right by everyone, and J.R. the ruthless and raw businessman who has no principles beyond Ewing Oil's profits and the Ewing standing), but Pam is the key link to all the relationships and feuds. She is a Barnes and married to Bobby from the rival Ewing family, so that's a feud in itself and plays into Bobby and J.R.'s feud, and into J.R. and Cliff's feud, and into Jock and Digger's renewed fallout in the early period of Dallas. Take Pam away, and it doesn't mean as much, as Season 11 showed. And also, none of the new characters introduced after that (Seasons 12-14) were engaging, quite the opposite; and J.R. seemed to have a personality transplant.
     
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    Thanks for your input Mustard. I find it interesting to read your perspective considering that you didn't watch the show until some 10-14 years ago when it was first released on DVD. That gives you a different perspective compared to everyone who watched the original run.

    I think you are right about Pam, she was very important to the show and it was never the same without her. Then again considering that the show was originally created to be about Bobby and Pam and the Barnes-Ewing feud that is not so surprising.
     
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    Thanks, Karin. Yes, it's true that Dallas was mainly supposed to be about Bobby and Pam originally, and the Romeo and Juliet factor of their relationship and marriage. But as Bobby is married to Pam and they're in love etc., who acts as the moral opponent to what Pam believes? It's J.R. Ewing.

    Bobby might share Pam's views on a lot of things in going against J.R., but Bobby is firmly a Ewing in terms of business and isn't really connected much to the emotional side of the Barnes family like Pam is. Pam has feet in both camps, as she is both a Barnes (by upbringing) and a Ewing (by marriage), and J.R. is the distilled essence of Jock's most ruthless business side with very little of Jock's good side. And with Miss Ellie, you have the family factor, with her having feet in 3 camps in some ways, as a former girlfriend of Digger's back in the 1930s, a Southworth by blood, upbringing and sentiment, and a Ewing by marriage. All this, with the links and conflicts, mixing in soap opera and serious drama, is what made Dallas really tick for so long. It is false to just see it as the J.R, show, as some did. J.R. was a hugely important character, but the dynamic in the show and between the characters was even more important.
     
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    Heh. I still say she reads this site. Along with her lawyer. Which is herself. :lol:
     

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