What happened to JR's accent over the years?

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  1. Dallas Cowgirl

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    When Dallas first started I loved listening to JR's Texan drawl. Over the years this accent faded and was gradually dropped. Did anyone else notice this? Towards the end of the series he sometimes had even a kind of Englishness/poshness in his speech. I don't know if this was intentional or something that Larry just did without thinking?
     
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    Oh, that's interesting. I never really noticed that. I did think Sue Ellen's Southern accent seemed to diminish over time and apparently, Joan van Ark was asked to modify Val's over on KNOTS.
     
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    I noticed that, too. Sue Ellen's faded accent was obvious as time passed, so much so that you tend to miss J.R.'s diminished Texan accent unless you really tune in.
     
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    Vanessa Beaumont rubbed off on his accent.
     
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    I never noticed JR's accent lessening either -- Hagman's a Texan in real life anyway. Thank goodness Pam's went away pretty quickly.
     
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    It could be even worse than that if you went to the Graeme McDowell school of elocution, the golfer who has invented the most horribly contrived transatlantic accent ever. He needs subtitles for every interview he conducts, no matter what country he is in.

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    The non-native Texans dropped their fake accents fairly quickly, likely because they just forgot to do it after a while and then it wasn't necessary. Once you get "in character" and make that character your own I'd imagine an accent is neither here not there unless it was a huge part of the character themselves (e.g. Cally or Vanessa).

    I never noticed Larry/JR's changing accent. In fact apart from Linda/Sue Ellen's fake wispy Southern accent I never really noticed anyone's accent. American's on TV with general TV accents sort of tend to run together in their spoken English after a while (imo).
     
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    So is Susan Howard (from Marshall)-- I didn't see every episode she was in, so I'm not sure if she dropped/lessened hers or not.
     
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    It's interesting you say that because I do notice Larry's 'poshness' from time to time. I put it down to him spending a lot of time in England (London especially!) :)
     
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    I noticed the opposite. I've never heard his Texan accent sound any thicker than when he called Sly after getting away from Cally's brothers and told her "get me a chopper now." Listen to that when you get the chance if you have any doubts.

    She either got lazy or couldn't learn to do it well. Patrick Duffy didn't bother trying. The best actors do change the way they speak depending on the role. If you've ever seen "House" that guy is from England but you'd never know it and it's not that he has lost his English accent because he still speaks with his original accent when not playing the role of an American. When he does have to sound American he does it convincingly.

    Gary Oldman is from England too but when you hear him play the character of Drexel in True Romance, you'd never know it. He doesn't sound anything like his usual self in that movie. He plays a pimp who has dreadlocks and thinks he's black. After he beats up the character played by Christian Slater he turns to his friend who is black and says: "He must have thought it was white boy day. It ain't white boy day is it"? His friend replies in all seriousness: "No, it ain't white boy day." Oldman was perfect in that role. If he'd taken the Victoria Principal or Patrick Duffy attitude: It's not the way I naturally speak so I won't put in the effort to learn how to speak that way, it would have ruined the whole character. To his credit, Oldman put in the effort to learn that for a character he'd play just once - not week after week for years.
     
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    I think that’s a little different. Someone playing a Texan using a non-Texan accent, most people won’t bat an eye. English actors playing Americans have no choice but to change their accents.
     
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    This elasticity of an accent is realistic in Texas. Some people have an accent that gets stronger when they are around their friends than it does in a more formal setting. And it comes and goes over the years.

    My friends speak with a deeper accent when they drink. Imagine them at a Ewing Barbecue!
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    I think the accent (for those it was native to, like Hagman) was toned down as the show became an international success. It is certainly more pronounced in early seasons, but Hagman's was still barely present in later seasons. Now, as for Texans and modulating their accent, I agree with @Lastkidpicked because I have experienced it with a Texan friend of mine whose accent gets thicker once it crosses the state line. But those Ewings were mostly home-bound.

    I find shows that don't have the local accent weird, to be honest. One of the things that is bizarre about the Dynasty reboot is that no Carrington has a Georgia accent. I know Atlantans don't have as thick an accent as people from Macon, but they don't speak in Mid-Atlantic register either.
     
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    I agree. The Andy Griffith Show is another example. Andy had a southern accent that gradually disappeared and didn’t exist a few years into the show, and nobody else in the show talked Southern.
     
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    Not quite the same but I do enjoy the way he drawls Sly's name at times. Not always, but sometimes. I suppose it's his accent?
     
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    Yeah, I think because they filmed in Texas more in the early days that might have been the reason. When he got away from Texas he would have been more likely to lose his accent.
     
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    let's give Patrick the tiniest of tiny bits of credit - Bobby dropped the ‘g’ of the end of some words and said “ain’t” a few times in the early years
     
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