When DYNASTY beat the Democrats...

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  1. Michael Torrance

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    For the record, the episode which aired (one hour later than the usual slot) was "The Collapse."

    https://apnews.com/7ea1488213c617efd5cc458b11201ae0

    ABC Chooses ‘Dynasty’ Over Democrats
    FRED ROTHENBERGFebruary 5, 1985


    NEW YORK (AP) _ While the Democrats are responding to President Reagan on NBC and CBS Wednesday night, the Carringtons will be cavorting on ABC, prompting one political official to snipe: ″ABC has chosen ‘Dynasty’ over Democracy.″
    ABC decided to follow the president’s 9 p.m. EST State of the Union message with ″Dynasty,″ its most popular show, and to delay the Democrats’ 30-minute ″alternative view″ until Thursday night, the network’s weakest night in the ratings.
    CBS will fill the 9-11 p.m. EST timeslot Wednesday with Reagan, Democrats, analysis and a 30-minute sitcom, ″Alice.″ NBC will fill the two-hour block with the president’s speech, Democrats and analysis.

    Third-rated ABC is expected to gain audiences by maneuvering to keep ″Dynasty″ on the air, one hour later than usual. That becomes more significant since February is a sweeps months when ratings for local stations help determine future advertising rates.
    An advertising source, who spoke only on condition he not be identified, said a 30-second commercial on ″Dynasty″ costs $165,000. With six minutes of ads for the hour, ABC stands to pick up $2 million in revenues.
    Asked why ABC was delaying the Democratic message, Tom Mackin, ABC’s director of program information, said: ″It is incumbent on us to offer the opposition party an opportunity for a timely response and we have done so.″ ABC officials refused to discuss their reasoning.

    The decision does not sit well with the Democrats.
    ″ABC has chosen ‘Dynasty’ over Democracy,″ said Christopher J. Matthews, administrative assistant to Speaker of the House Thomas P. O’Neill Jr. of Massachusetts. ″We’re offering our alternative view to the state of the union. Why is the president’s speech newsworthy, and the Democrats’ isn’t?″
    Matthews said ABC’s decision to show its soap opera, which chronicles the romantic and financial entanglements of the glamorous Carringtons and their glamorous enemies, will have a ″lethal″ impact on the ratings for the Democrats on the other networks.

    ″We’ve appealed to ABC and continue to appeal to them,″ he said. ″Our response is going against the most powerful show in TV, then ABC is going to bury us the next night after Hugh Downs (host of ABC’s ’20-20.’)″
    ″It seems to me that it is strictly a ratings consideration,″ said Curt Block, an NBC vice president. He noted that ABC carried the State of the Union and the Democrats on the same night last year.
    ″That was a Wednesday night, too,″ Block said. ″What’s changed? It was in January and not during the sweeps, and they’re in third place now.″
    ″There is no standard tradition of following the State of the Union with a set type of response,″ said Robert Murphy, ABC News’ vice president for news coverage. ″We look at each speech fresh. Our track record shows that we handle every one differently from the last one.″

    These scheduling decisions are made by top network executives and not by either the entertainment or news divisions at ABC, NBC and CBS.
    At CNN, the all-news cable network, there is no conflict between the two.
    ″The other networks are entertainment networks,″ said Judi Borza, spokeswoman for CNN. ″News is what we do.″
     
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    6 minutes of ads for the hour ... those were the days. :rolleyes:
    Now it's 20 minutes and growing. I guess in a few more years it will be 50% content and 50% ads.
    So, bye-bye network-tv ... so glad i don't need you anymore. Cause i'm strong enough, to live without you, strong enough, and I quit crying long enough, now I'm strong enough to know ...
    YOU GOTTA GO! :danc: :p
     
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    Actually, even in the '5os and '60s it was 6 minutes per hour or more. By the mid-'80s, there were about 11 minutes per hour.

    But, as you say, it's 20+ minutes per hour today. And, yes, soon we'll be asked to watch TV for the commercials and, as a special treat, we'll get a couple of moments of drama or comedy.

    There's been a lot of talk about this problem in the business, and everybody agrees they've got to do something or the audience is going to abandon network TV for cable and streaming services even faster, but going the opposite way around the obelisk (e.g., having fewer commercials and having advertisers pay more to have their commercial compete with fewer ads) is just a tough thing to do.
     
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    Yes, when Star Trek was shown in syndication in the 80s, they had to trim the episodes.
    The ridiculous thing with networks is that, unless you get it free through an antenna, you do already pay for it. The broadcasters' fee is 12 dollars on rcn for example.
     
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    I HATE those shorter "syndication versions" of TV shows. Sometimes the DVD labels don't do proper research on the material and even release those shorter versions on DVD! ALF is one example of that, soooo stupid! :mad:
    In Germany the standard resolution of the commercial networks is free (and looks quite poor), but if you want to watch those in HD quality, you'll have to pay an extra monthly fee. :re:
     
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    Barnaby Jones is another-- VEI's all-in-one has only one uncut season's worth on it, that being the first one; after that, the remaining ones had cuts out the wazoo; never could understand why.
     
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    The Republicans showed no loyalty to "Dynasty"; that November the first episode of "The Colbys" planned to air in its own time-slot had to be re-scheduled due to a speech by President Reagan. When "The Colbys" finally did air in its Thursday time-slot it was Thanksgiving, a day when Americans only watch football and parades.
     
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    For example, there is scene in STAR TREK:TNG where Worf is working on a hand crafted model of some sort since he is supposed to be off, but suddenly they make a demand on his time and want to come in his quarters. Quick to frustration as he is, he sweeps everything from his desk (taking it down in the process), dumps in in his drawer, and then says with a hint of annoyance: "come in." All that scene is cut in syndication, and we only see the door call and Worf replying.
     
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