1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Which COLBYS would you bring back to DYNASTY and how?

Discussion in 'The Colbys' started by Michael Torrance, Oct 6, 2018.

  1. Michael Torrance

    Michael Torrance Soap Chat Star EXP: 2 Years

    Threads:
    90
    Messages:
    2,504
    Trophy Points:
    1,098
    Occupation:
    Instigator
    Location:
    Alexis' studio
    Ratings:
    +4,050
    I know eventually David Paulsen brought back Sable and later Monica, and somehow in the reunion they had Fallon with Miles again only to leave him for male-menopausal Jeff. But I found it curious that in S8 they did not bring back some of the characters created for the spin-off.
    Possibilities I see:

    Sable--Paulsen showed us all the reasons, but having her live in California nursing a Fallon who had a psychotic break after the UFO could have worked for early S8.

    Miles--because there was no hotter male on DYNASTY, and Thomson was no longer showing skin. And in the previous storyline Fallon could reconnect with him.

    Garrett Boyd: it would have given Dominique a storyline, and could have kept the pipeline plot going which was all but forgotten.

    Monica: She should have been brought on as someone Adam has a fling with and leaves pregnant, and she is determined this time to keep the baby--a much better storyline than the surrogacy and touching upon old wounds.

    Philip: He was written as too villainous too fast, but he would have been an interesting one to come and get in the mix with Alexis, and maybe help Sean's revenge, maybe chart his own plans.

    Fallon: obviously, but I would have kept her in California a bit, and since it is now taking place on DYNASTY she can finally interact with Krystle and Alexis as well. And Steven could have been more sensitive to her paranoia about kids being abducted after his experience (and grief, which we never saw) with Claudia.

    Jeff: I would be happy to leave him with his biological parents in the cancellation universe.

    So, who you would bring on board and how?
     
    • Like Like x 3
  2. colbyco

    colbyco Soap Chat Active Member

    Threads:
    15
    Messages:
    280
    Trophy Points:
    377
    Location:
    Germany
    Ratings:
    +481
    A spokesman of the show told the "Star" they thought another woman like Alexis would be too much for the show... how wrong!!!!
    I would have given Sable a reason to hate Alexis and move to Denver at the beginning of S8. Sable could have help Blake to become gouvernor. Miles could have fallen in love with Sammy Jo or Steven or both.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  3. Ked

    Ked Soap Chat Star

    Threads:
    73
    Messages:
    2,580
    Trophy Points:
    1,098
    Ratings:
    +2,245
    Or Jackie Deveraux?
     
  4. Michael Torrance

    Michael Torrance Soap Chat Star EXP: 2 Years

    Threads:
    90
    Messages:
    2,504
    Trophy Points:
    1,098
    Occupation:
    Instigator
    Location:
    Alexis' studio
    Ratings:
    +4,050
    Not having Jackie burn in the La Mirage fire was the biggest mistake the producers committed in that episode.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  5. Willie Oleson

    Willie Oleson SoapLand Battles Moderator

    Threads:
    264
    Messages:
    12,257
    Trophy Points:
    9,250
    Occupation:
    marriage counselor
    Location:
    Plotville, Shenanigan
    Ratings:
    +22,516
    I think it would have been more interesting if Dominique had a son.
    upload_2018-12-1_17-54-33.png
     
    • Like Like x 2
  6. Ked

    Ked Soap Chat Star

    Threads:
    73
    Messages:
    2,580
    Trophy Points:
    1,098
    Ratings:
    +2,245
    As much as I hated Jackie, I love the idea of her and Miles together so that Sable and Dominique can become meddling mother-in-laws too much. :lol:
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. Snarky's Ghost

    Snarky's Ghost Soap Chat Oracle EXP: 19 Years

    Threads:
    518
    Messages:
    7,126
    Trophy Points:
    6,136
    Occupation:
    INFJ
    Location:
    Haunting that cozy cellar under Falcon Crest
    Ratings:
    +9,182
    I would have contrived a reason for the California Colbys to rent out Cecil's Nine Oaks mansion near Denver from Alexis while Jason and his family do business in Colorado, for, like, the first half of Season 6 before spinning off.

    After THE COLBYS folded, bring back to DYNASTY Jason to run against Blake and Alexis during the 1988 primary campaign, then Sable and Monica, and, for Season 10, Miles.

    In my head, King Galen and Zachary Powers are the same person: Ricardo Montalbán. :lol:

    And Emma Samms is a Fallmont. :)

    [​IMG]
     
    • Like Like x 3
  8. Michael Torrance

    Michael Torrance Soap Chat Star EXP: 2 Years

    Threads:
    90
    Messages:
    2,504
    Trophy Points:
    1,098
    Occupation:
    Instigator
    Location:
    Alexis' studio
    Ratings:
    +4,050
    The Colbys should have some established corporate presence in Colorado once the pipeline started. That would also have made it easier to bring some back into the fold once their own show folded.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  9. Matthew Blaisdel

    Matthew Blaisdel Soap Chat Enthusiast EXP: 14 Years

    Threads:
    20
    Messages:
    2,052
    Trophy Points:
    2,602
    Occupation:
    enjoying life
    Location:
    past orbit, on the way out of the solar system
    Ratings:
    +3,550
    Yes, he could have started an affair with Nick Kimball - the next exciting love-triangle! :spinning:
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  10. GillesDenver

    GillesDenver Soap Chat Fan EXP: 2 Years

    Threads:
    8
    Messages:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    277
    Location:
    Moldavia
    Ratings:
    +717
    Sable was a good addition but I think "Dynasty" did not need more Colbys. Just like "The Colbys" did not need more Carringtons (except Caress - who was not a Carrington anyway).

    In my opinion, the run for governor would have worked better in "The Colbys" with Jason (versus Cash Cassidy ? Or Cash's father ?)

    And the Colby family should have been less present in season 6. The spin-off should have started at the same time than the beginning of season 6. The timing for the cross-over was good though.
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2019
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. thomaswak

    thomaswak Soap Chat Well-Known Member EXP: 11 Months

    Threads:
    8
    Messages:
    730
    Trophy Points:
    277
    Location:
    France
    Ratings:
    +942
    I would put Jackie and Kirby in the (almost) same category :
    An attempt to create a new female character, that failed.
     
  12. Michael Torrance

    Michael Torrance Soap Chat Star EXP: 2 Years

    Threads:
    90
    Messages:
    2,504
    Trophy Points:
    1,098
    Occupation:
    Instigator
    Location:
    Alexis' studio
    Ratings:
    +4,050
    I don't know if Kirby failed, despite both the writing and the actress fumbling. She was front and center in season three, and her arc was really the only continuous arc of season four. The actress wanted out and the show wanted her out, but with different casting and less whiny writing she could have stuck as a character. She had connections to the Carringtons (Joseph should never have been killed) and the Colbys, and her pregnancy should have been left more ambiguous, with Kirby knowing the father could have been Jeff's OR Adam's. Jackie, on the other hand, was the daughter of a character who was herself an afterthought.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  13. GillesDenver

    GillesDenver Soap Chat Fan EXP: 2 Years

    Threads:
    8
    Messages:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    277
    Location:
    Moldavia
    Ratings:
    +717
    Kathleen Beller didn't want to quit "Dynasty", on the contrary she was pissed off to have been "let go" (especially since she had met Diahann Carroll when both of them were told that they would play mother and daughter).
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  14. Michael Torrance

    Michael Torrance Soap Chat Star EXP: 2 Years

    Threads:
    90
    Messages:
    2,504
    Trophy Points:
    1,098
    Occupation:
    Instigator
    Location:
    Alexis' studio
    Ratings:
    +4,050
    Yeah, apparently they had 3-4 alternative theories as to who Dominique would be. In terms of making her a core character, being Blake's sister would on paper be the best. But...
     
  15. tommie

    tommie Soap Chat Star EXP: 3 Years

    Threads:
    289
    Messages:
    2,965
    Trophy Points:
    1,098
    Location:
    Sweden
    Ratings:
    +3,611
    In hindsight, Dominique should've been a very focused one season character on Dynasty with a strong story arc instead of fumbling around for three seasons doing nothing.

    Of course, this would've made her ripe to be spun off to The Colby's.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  16. Willie Oleson

    Willie Oleson SoapLand Battles Moderator

    Threads:
    264
    Messages:
    12,257
    Trophy Points:
    9,250
    Occupation:
    marriage counselor
    Location:
    Plotville, Shenanigan
    Ratings:
    +22,516
    This would have been great if it had been a twist on top of another (season long?) storyline. As in "just when you thought things couldn't get worse".
    But they were so eager to drop this "fabulous" bombshell that they forgot to give this character a raison d'être. So she inherited some stuff from Tom Carrington that she didn't need.

    Since Dominique was essentially Dynasty's answer to Diana Ross there wasn't much to upgrade. She was famous, pretty and filthy rich. Where was the profit in this story? Well I guess the fun part was that it would upset Blake which seems to indicate that it was written for the Carringtons, not for Dominique.
    That itself is not unusal in soaps, but then you also have to acknowledge the fact that your tool is just that: a tool. Use it, and move on.

    I found her music industry sub-plots and love interests terribly boring, although it looked slightly more interesting on The Colbys. But as it turned out, even they didn't know what to do with her.

    The real reason why they kept her is obvious: she looked stunning in Nolan Miller outfits.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  17. Michael Torrance

    Michael Torrance Soap Chat Star EXP: 2 Years

    Threads:
    90
    Messages:
    2,504
    Trophy Points:
    1,098
    Occupation:
    Instigator
    Location:
    Alexis' studio
    Ratings:
    +4,050
    Even if they wanted to pit Dominique and Alexis against one another, Blake could have kept quiet about her paternity and told her she would be accepted but kept under wraps, then Alexis could have used that as a secret to expose to the chinese to get the china sea oil leases on the moral grounds Ben's lie was used for. But there needed to be more about her life (Brady would have helped that) and also more about what Tom being acknowledged as her father could even do to her, her career, her extended family--something.

    But Dynasty missed even obvious nuggets to explore with Dominique--like the fact that even though the truth about her father coming to light was important to her, she had the hypocrisy to lie to Jackie about her own father. Why didn't anyone call her on that? Because no writer cared enough to put two and two together.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2019
    • Agree Agree x 1
  18. Willie Oleson

    Willie Oleson SoapLand Battles Moderator

    Threads:
    264
    Messages:
    12,257
    Trophy Points:
    9,250
    Occupation:
    marriage counselor
    Location:
    Plotville, Shenanigan
    Ratings:
    +22,516
    Good point!

    I wish they had given them a story that wasn't about Blake.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2019
    • Agree Agree x 1
  19. tommie

    tommie Soap Chat Star EXP: 3 Years

    Threads:
    289
    Messages:
    2,965
    Trophy Points:
    1,098
    Location:
    Sweden
    Ratings:
    +3,611
    There was also the moment where Blake gladly accepted Amanda into the family where Dominique was seen looking uncomfortable/bothered. The material was there, they just didn't do anything with it since... well, it's Dynasty.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  20. TJames03

    TJames03 Soap Chat TV Fanatic

    Threads:
    175
    Messages:
    1,521
    Trophy Points:
    587
    Location:
    California
    Ratings:
    +933
    Sable should have been brought to Dynasty immediately after the Colbys ended.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1

Share This Page