Who was the Hollywood actress referred to by Krystle and Alexis..?

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  1. Franko

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    I think it's worth a watch, yes. Patty has the luck of having most of the memorable lines/moments, but I do think there's something compelling about her performance as Neely. You can buy her as not only an unmistakable talent but a complete lost cause. Mileage may vary on Barbara Parkins' performance -- I should revisit it, as my memory is that she's just too serene for the scene. And Sharon Tate's really quite gorgeous.
     
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    Faye Dunaway is my answer, too!!!!
     
  3. Snarky's Ghost

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    Needs to be a golden age actress, doesn't it? Faye didn't become a star until 1967.
     
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    I suggested Helen Lawson on the old site. Hayward was an Oscar winner which is why I suggested her/them for this. That and why not include "Valley of the Dolls" as if it was real; kind of like the Tommy Westphall Universe or John Munch appearing on ten series across five networks.
     
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    It's definitely worth watching as a "so bad it's good" movie; a lot of memorable quotes and scenes. I nominate Patty Duke's necklace for best performance by a piece of jewelry.

    Howard Bragman is full of $#1+ in that documentary: "there were no tabloids then", there were plenty of gossip rags in the golden age of Hollywood. Has he never heard of Hedda Hopper and Louella Parsons?
     
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    Using logic (I know, what the hell am I thinking?) the contretemps between Alexis and the actress would most likely have happened at a party after the Oscars. It also probably happened sometime after Alexis left Denver. This means it would have been an actress who won her award sometime between 1964(ish) and 1980. I'm including supporting actresses along with lead actresses to give us as many choices as possible.

    The nominees are:
    Julie Andrews
    Julie Christie
    Elizabeth Taylor
    Katharine Hepburn
    Barbra Streisand
    Maggie Smith
    Glenda Jackson
    Jane Fonda
    Liza Minnelli
    Ellen Burstyn
    Louise Fletcher
    Diane Keaton
    Sally Field
    Sissy Spacek
    Lila Kedrova
    Shelley Winters
    Sandy Dennis
    Estelle Parsons
    Ruth Gordon
    Goldie Hawn
    Helen Hayes
    Cloris Leachman
    Eileen Heckart
    Tatum O'Neal
    Ingrid Bergman
    Lee Grant
    Beatrice Straight
    Vanessa Redgrave
    Meryl Streep
    Mary Steenburgen
     
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    Goldie Hawn was not present at the Oscars, Raquel Welch took the award for her. So she is disqualified.
     
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    Julie Andrews: she makes a guest appearance during which she is "practically perfect" when she's around Blake and Krystle but she's angry and foul-mouthed when she's alone with Alexis.

    Elizabeth Taylor: a logical choice but maybe too obvious.

    Liza Minnelli: this could be fun.

    Sally Field: Alexis: "Well, Miss Field, I for one, don't like you!"

    Shelley Winters: ooh, this could really be fun!

    Helen Hayes: Alexis assaulting an elderly woman! So outrageous I have to consider it.

    Cloris Leachman: the fact that Collins once had an affair with Leachman's husband could make this very interesting.

    Tatum O'Neal: Alexis assaulting a child (who happens to be the the child of one of Collins' former lovers)? Hmmm.

    Lee Grant: I can definitely see this.
     
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    So Alexis and Raquel could have gone at it, I like that!
     
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    Of those on your list, this smells the most right.

    Although my fave choice is still Susan Hayward and/or Helen Lawson :lol: . (Hayward was perfect casting for DOLLS in that she and Ethel Merman were both Scorpio Rising/Moon in Scorpio !)
     
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    You could disqualify a lot of those actresses for not being known wig wearers. Though in the 1960s and '70s it was fairly common, people like Sally Field, Sissy Spacek, Tatum O'Neil, Vanessa Redgrave, Meryl Streep, Diane Keaton, Maggie Smith, Glenda Jackson and Ellen Burstyn weren't bewigged or obviously so.
    Shelley Winters, Lee Grant, Goldie Hawn, Elizabeth Taylor and Barbara Streisand and even Jane Fonda would be more known for wigs and pieces. And these would be the more likely of the known bunch of actresses to actually get into a brawl with Alexis. They seem more firey types, more bitchy diva than the others. With probably the exception of Goldie Hawn. Even though I could still see Goldie fight with Alexis and get her elaborate hair piece ripped off and thrown through the French windows.

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    Although in the alternate reality that is DYNASTY I think I want that actress to be played by Lauren Hutton and for her to be a star from the late 1960s and '70s. She had an affair with Blake when Alexis and he broke up and the two women brawled. This all comes out in the season 10 that never was.
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    I also somehow only see Alexis clawing at an icy blonde. It seems only right.
     
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    I just discovered Helen Hayes didn't attend the Oscars, Rosalind Russell accepted on her behalf. Glenda Jackson wasn't present to receive either of her awards, Rosalind Bedford (!) accepted the first one and producer Melvin Frank accepted the second. Cloris obviously isn't wearing a wig so she's also disqualified.

    Susan Hayward was a presenter at the 1974 Oscars wearing a Nolan Miller gown and a big red wig but she was very frail, this was her last public appearance and she wanted to do it in style. Obviously, this is much too sad to consider.

    I can't help but imagine Goldie Hawn giggling during her catfight with Alexis.

    I already cast Lauren Hutton in season ten (actually David Paulsen did) as Mrs. Elias a.k.a. Marin so she couldn't be the actress.

    This could possibly be the icy blonde Alexis claws at:
     
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    On Peach Dynasty Alexis snatched this. It needed snatching:
     
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    If it's Lee Grant I insist that Brenda Vaccaro and Sylvia Miles also be involved.
     
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    I love all your choices but I´d go for... (go to 24'50'')


    Victoria Principal and Pam Grier, two forces to be reckoned with...who never got an Oscar but might be wearing a wig now and then, and face it: it would be a lot of fun that Alexis had a catfight with Victoria in a yacht when the former still was a starlet...In the video there´s even Liza Minnelli so it´s the perfect setup for the birth of a feud between Alexis and...some other (younger) female.

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    Due to this thread I spent most of last night watching the opening of the Oscars from the late 1960s through to the early 1980s on YouTube. It's amazing to see how it's all changed.
     
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    Alexis versus Victoria Principal (looks like she's wearing her wig from "Earthquake"): no problem. Alexis versus Pam Grier: Alexis would have gotten her @$$ whooped!
     
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    I'm just gonna say this:

    Pam Grier vs. Diahann Carroll.
     
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