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Discussion in 'Music' started by Willie Oleson, Aug 19, 2018.

  1. James from London

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    "Del Shannon, king of pain, was truly one of pop's heavyweight champs."

     
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    This my list so far.

    - King of Rock’n Roll – Elvis Presley
    - Queen of Rock’n Roll – Tina Turner

    - King of the Blues – B.B. King
    - Queen of the Blues – Bonnie Raitt

    - King of Pop – Micheal Jackson
    - Queen of Pop – Madonna

    - King of Country – Johnny Cash
    - Queen of Country – Dolly Parton

    - King of Soul – James Brown
    - Queen of Soul – Aretha Franklin

    - King of the Voice - Frank Sinatra
    - Queen of the Voice – Barbra Streisand

    - Queen of Jazz – Ella Fitzgerald

    - Queen of the Power Ballades – Celine Dion

    - King of Rock – Freddy Mecury

    - Queen of Disco - Donna Summer

    - King of Reggae - Bob Marley

    - Queen of R&B - Whitney Houston
     
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  3. Willie Oleson

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    This is new to me and I really like it, I've always had a soft spot for "American places" songs.
    And is Frank Sinatra is THE Voice?
     
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    Your right, i put Frank Sinatra in the wrong list, my fault :(

    I changed my list. ;)
     
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  5. James from London

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  6. Willie Oleson

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    And also 3 #1 hits in the stereogum list, with an average 7/10 grade.
     
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    Gosh, I'm surprised. I'm up as far as 1972. Sadly, 'Alone Again (Naturally)' has only managed 3/10 and everyone in the comment section hates it too.
     
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  8. Willie Oleson

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    Hm, I clicked on "comments" but they don't show up.

    As for the review itself:

    "Maybe that’s why O’Sullivan doesn’t sound even remotely broken when he’s singing about being broken. He’s singing about heartbreak — not from lived experience, but from coming up with the saddest, most melodramatic situations that he can imagine"

    Somehow I don't feel these kind of songs, especially with such exact descriptions, should be autobiographical.
    If there's pain,it should be in the song, not the singer - I don't need to hear a "tear" in every note they sing.
    I like it when the offer something to be experienced, but I don't need to be drowned in it (although I'd make an exception for Dolly Parton songs).
     
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  9. Mel O'Drama

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    I'm not quite sure how this all works. Having visited the website, I think I need an Access Course to be able to use it.



    Aww. I used to hum along with this when my Mum played it during my childhood.

    Because of the arrangement I never really got how grim it actually is. Not until I heard Shirley Bassey's version which - to borrow Willie's phrase - has a tear in every note.



    I wonder what The Stereogums would make of this one.
     
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  10. Willie Oleson

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    Strange, I heard 3 Gilbert O'Sullivan songs on the radio today. And I mean the computer at work, so it can't be a matter of algorithm.
    Unless algorithm has already developed in ways we can't imagine yet (shades of Black Mirror?)

    Barry Manilow's "Mandy" also gets the it-doesn't-sound-the-way-it-should treatment on stereogum (it sounds too "Pop Idols").
    But how sad does the Mandy song have to be? To me, it's always been just a very pretty song about some girl, but apparently that's not good enough.
    Having said that, John Denver might have been a better choice.
     
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    I like this list a lot, I just wish I could showhorn in somewhere Nat King Cole, Chrissie Hynde, and Bruce Springsteen:confuse:
     
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    Oh shame. There's some really great stuff in the comments section on this blog, unlike most other comment sections on the internet.

    I wonder if the British [correction: IRISH!] understatement in O'Sullivan's delivery doesn't quite translate to American ears -- although it must have done at the time for it to spend six weeks at number one over there.

    I don't think the writer's too hung up on authenticity, though. He's very interesting on Diana Ross whom he describes as a great actor of songs.

    Yes, Stereogum's a big old place. This is the bit of it we've been talking about, a blog where a writer critiques, entirely subjectively, every American number one there ever has been. I'm kind of hooked on it:

    https://www.stereogum.com/category/franchises/the-number-ones/page/10/

    It's based on this British version which is also great:

    http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/

    Well yes, it's certainly .... different. There's also an Elton John and Pet Shop Boys version which takes some getting used to (if any song doesn't scream 'duet' it's one called Alone Again Naturally) but it's sort of grown on me in spite of myself.

     
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  13. Willie Oleson

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    Not bad at all, it sounds like a clever mash-up of two versions created by a creative youtuber.
     
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