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World Cup Tournament World Cup of Soap Operas - The Matches

Discussion in 'World Cup of Soaps' started by Angela Channing, Aug 20, 2019.

  1. Mel O'Drama

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    On that note, here's a nice, very recent article about the series (which also mentions The Box and Prisoner):
    With Number 96, Australia brought queer people to TV decades before anyone else



    And a few of Dorrie's malapropisms:

    The Wit and Wisdom of Dorrie Evans

    It's not listed here, but I always chortle when I think of a line in the feature film version where she orders her husband to retrieve their "boney fido" marriage certificate from a chocolate box "underneath our last will and testicles".


    Now these really are out of UK soapland.



    I want somebody to make one of those 12 hour YouTube videos that plays the theme on a loop:
     
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  2. Willie Oleson

    Willie Oleson SoapLand Battles Moderator EXP: 18 Years

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    I really liked Arnold, and his relationship with the Godolfuses.
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    But then again, he wasn't exactly the teenybopper type.
     
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  3. Mel O'Drama

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    In point of actual fact, so did I.



    He always reminded me of a younger, skinnier Harold Bishop.
     
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    Me too :D

    I've just discovered that the actor playing the part would've actually been 30 or 31 when the DVD episodes were made but that the character was supposed to have been a decade younger.

    To be honest, up until now, I'd always assumed that the actor's age (30 or 31) was also (at least) the character's age so, I've never regarded him as one of the show's 20 something sex symbols.
     
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    Match 7 - Peyton Place. As @Mel O'Drama said, it's the original.
    Match 8 - Number 96. A real ground-breaker. The waves it made at the time went beyond merely a TV show.
     
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    Game 7 - Peyton Place: A juggernaut for America, in the mid to late sixties. Originally shown in black and white the show would change to colour in 1966. There was a novel published 8 years before the T.V. series and a cinematic film starring Lana Turner from FALCON CREST fame, as the leading woman. Peyton Place T.V. had a life of five seasons. It was loosely based on the book and had Dorothy Malone, Ed Nelson, Mia Farrow and Ryan O'Neal in the cast. Actors William Smithers and Leigh Taylor-Young joined the programme in the later years. These two names are also known to eighties prime time fans as Jeremy Wendell and Kimberly Cryder respectively, in DALLAS.

    Game 8 - Return To Eden: Originally broadcast in September 1983 as a mini-series over three episodes (90 minutes each). The brand was rejuvenated in 1985 when work began on a T.V. series; which would see the light of day in February 1986 lasting until July, of the same year. RTE had the same components of wealthy lifestyle as it's American counterparts DALLAS, DYNASTY and FALCON CREST i.e. glamour; business wars, bitches, bastards, sex, affairs, back stabbing and the wild over the top storylines / plots. Rebecca Gilling, James Smillie, Peta Toppano and Daniel Abineri were the main stars of the series, with New Eden (a Sydney mansion) and Harper Mining as the focal points.
     
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    Match 7: Central Park West
    Match 8: Return to Eden
     
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    Match seven - Central Park West
    Match eight - Return To Eden
     
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  9. Angela Channing

    Angela Channing World Cup of Soaps Moderator EXP: 21 Years

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    [​IMG]

    Peyton Place's Dr Rossi is correct to point out that the poll closes at midday on Tuesday so get your vote in before then. The matches are between Central Park West and Peyton Place and between Number 96 and Return To Eden.
     
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    Sharing some covers of my RTE collection

    Imagine Jilly Vs Abby?!

    Look this French tv magazine liked Jilly and Abby so much they put them on the cover together twice! (See bottom right)
     
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    Where did you buy all those French magazines?
     
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    Match Seven

    I remember liking what I saw of Central Park West, but beyond that, it's a blur.

    I was always kind of intrigued by Peyton Place, but never for one minute realised how incredibly good it would turn out to be. It's like a novel that goes on for years and then towards the end after it turns colour, it kind of catches up with itself and starts addressing what in the late sixties would have been modern issues. It introduces a black family who are allowed to be so much richer and more multi-faceted than the black characters who would appear in the '80s supersoaps. They're even allowed to talk about being black!

    But there's a real Actors' Studio intensity to those earlier black and white episodes. As Rodney Harrington, Ryan O'Neal is like the missing link between James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause and Miles Colby. All the young characters (and actors) are fantastic. I don't think it was until Brookside that teenagers would again be given such importance and their problems taken so seriously in a soap. O'Neal and Mia Farrow really burned themselves into the public consciousness. The Harrington jacket was named after the coat Rodney wore on the series. When Mia Farrow suddenly chopped her character Alison's trademark long hair off without warning, Salvador Dali called it "a mythical suicide". The show had to write the new look in as part of Alison's deteriorating mental state. Her subsequent never-to-be-seen-again disappearance was and remains incredibly haunting. I could go on, but PEYTON PLACE it is.



    Match Eight

    Like CPW, I have pleasant but vague memories of Return to Eden.

    I've seen little snatches of Number 96 and mostly been a bit bemused, but I'm in such an Australian frame of mind, thanks to Sons and Daughters, that I'm inclined to give it the benefit of the doubt. So ... NUMBER 96.
     
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  13. Angela Channing

    Angela Channing World Cup of Soaps Moderator EXP: 21 Years

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    Love this description. :clap:
     
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  14. James from London

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    I guess I mean a specifically Fiona Thompson related-Australian frame of mind.
     
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    Falcon Crest is the 80s soap Peyton Place most reminds me of. If Angela Channing were an evil old man in a wheelchair, she'd be Martin Cord.
     
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    Your bemusement is completely understandable James. Most of the scenes available on YouTube are very random and lacking in context.

    Am I right in thinking your key experience of watching was the film version*? I remember you once describing it as "like On The Buses with gang rape".


    *Rebecca Gilling's shower scene would explain your "little snatches" comment.
     
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  18. Angela Channing

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    The poll has now closed and the votes have been counted and verified. The results of last week's 2 matches in the World Cup of Soap Operas are as follows:

    Match 7:
    Central Park West: 5
    Peyton Place: 11

    Match 8:
    Number 96: 5
    Return To Eden: 11

    I declare the winners of matches 5 and 6 to be Peyton Place and Return To Eden.

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  19. James from London

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    I think so. I have a Best of ... DVD lying around somewhere as well, but I don't think I've ever watched it.

    Yes, that sounds familiar!
     
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  20. Angela Channing

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    So we reach for the remote control to switch off Central Park West and Number 96. The following soap operas remain in the contest.

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    Details of the next 2 matches will be posted tomorrow and will involve 3 UK soaps and one from the USA.
     
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