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Yet another vulgar, sexist attack by Trump

Discussion in 'US Politics' started by SueEllenRules!, Jun 30, 2017.

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    'It is really not normal'
    Trump's vicious taunt draws backlash from both sides.
    • The first tweet contained the typical name-calling fare from President Trump, the kind of attacks that no longer surprise most people — labeling MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” as “poorly rated” and calling its hosts “low I.Q. Crazy Mika” and “Psycho Joe.”
    • But the second tweet, landing about six minutes later, caused an immediate and sustained uproar, as it contained a deeply personal and vulgar attack on Mika Brzezinski.
    • “She was bleeding badly from a face-lift,” the president tweeted Thursday morning, claiming that months earlier, Brzezinski and co-host Joe Scarborough tried to spend time with him at his private club in Florida. “I said no!”
    • Those words amounted to perhaps the most caustic insult that Trump has publicly hurled at another American since taking office, going beyond his usual name-calling and flame-throwing. More than three dozen Republicans and Democrats in Congress issued tweets of their own expressing disgust, calling the remark “unpresidential,” “vile, sexist and unbecoming of an American leader,” “divisive,” “unhinged and shameful” and “amazingly graceless.” Even some of the president’s close allies warned that he needed to act like a president and stop getting into distracting fights.
    • And by going after a powerful female journalist’s appearance and mental health, Trump not only distracted the country from his legislative agenda for a full news cycle, but also added yet another data point to the argument that he treats women differently from men.
    • “It is really not normal that the president of the United States and the commander in chief would be tweeting about somebody’s face,” said Liz Mair, a longtime Republican strategist and critic of the president. “It does not conform with the norms that we expect and we treat as pretty set in stone in this country, but it’s also just strange.”
    • Trump’s staff quickly came to his defense, saying that Brzezinski and Scarborough have said far worse things about the president and his staff.
    • “Look, I don’t think you can expect someone to be personally attacked day after day, minute by minute, and sit back,” deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters at the White House. “Look, the American people elected a fighter. . . . They knew what they were getting when they voted for Donald Trump.”
    • Trump once had a chummy relationship with “Morning Joe,” regularly calling in for lengthy interviews, referring to Brzezinski and Scarborough as “supporters” and offering to officiate at their wedding. But the hosts have become increasingly critical. For months, Brzezinski has raised questions about the president’s psychological health, calling him “possibly unfit mentally” and saying that he is “such a narcissist, it’s possible that he is mentally ill in a way.”
    • On Thursday morning, Brzezinski said that if someone took over NBC and acted as Trump has — “tweeting wildly about people’s appearances, bullying people, talking about people in the competition, lying every day, undermining his managers” — that “there would be concern that perhaps the person who runs the company is out of his mind.”
    • Sanders pointed to such rhetoric in her defense of Trump. “The things that this show has called him — and not just him, but numerous members of his staff, including myself and many others,” Sanders said. “It’s kind of like we’re living in the Twilight Zone. They do this day after day after day, and then the president responds and defends himself, and everybody is appalled and blown away.”
    • Later in the day, Sanders’s father, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, said in a Fox News Channel interview that the president “makes my daughter’s job very difficult with tweets like that.”
    • Less than half an hour after Trump fired off the tweet, Brzezinski responded by tweeting a photo of a Cheerios cereal box including the caption: “Made for Little Hands.” The message seemed to be aimed at mocking the size of the president’s hands — a sensitive topic for Trump that has dogged him for decades and even came up during a GOP presidential debate.
    • Mark Kornblau, the NBCUniversal News Group’s senior vice president for communications, tweeted: “Never imagined a day when I would think to myself, ‘it is beneath my dignity to respond to the President of the United States.’ ” The company later released a statement saying: “It’s a sad day for America when the president spends his time bullying, lying and spewing petty personal attacks instead of doing his job.”
    • The tweet marked a new low in presidential history, said Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian at Rice University.
    • “We make a big deal that Harry Truman told off a newspaper critic for writing a bad review of his daughter’s music concert,” he said. “How G-rated is that compared to what Donald Trump has done?”
    • Dozens of lawmakers from both parties, activists, political pundits and others rushed to condemn the president’s comments. Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) tweeted: “This has to stop — we all have a job — 3 branches of gov’t and media. We don’t have to get along, but we must show respect and civility.”
    • The tweets also came up in news conferences and interviews on Capitol Hill, where most lawmakers would have much rather discussed immigration and health-care legislation.
    • “Obviously, I don’t see that as an appropriate comment,” House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) said during a news conference. “What we’re trying to do around here is improve the civility and tone of the debate, and this obviously does not do that.”
    • Nicolle Wallace, an MSNBC host who was George W. Bush’s communications chief, used her Thursday afternoon show to urge women working in the White House to “go on the record and condemn your boss’s comments.” She challenged the women who are defending Trump and asked how mothers can raise their sons to be “good men if the most powerful man in the world gets away with this.”
    • “As someone who once proudly called myself a Republican, the party will be permanently associated with misogyny if leaders don’t step up and demand a retraction,” Wallace said.
    • Laura Ingraham, the conservative commentator who has considered working in Trump’s administration, tweeted: “MESSAGE DISCIPLINE!” She added that the White House should have spent Thursday focused on two immigration-related bills that passed in the House and “not cable TV hosts.”
    • Bill O’Reilly, a former Fox News personality and a longtime friend of Trump, said on Ingraham’s radio show that the president is undermining his own message. “It’s kind of discouraging for Americans who want important things to get done to be sidetracked by something like this,” he said.
    • The president claimed in his tweets that Brzezinski and Scarborough tried to spend time with him at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Fla., over three days around New Year’s Eve. The two were spotted by journalists at Trump’s New Year’s Eve party at the private club, and Scarborough said at the time that they were there to set up an interview with the president-elect. A routine-looking photo of Brzezinski from that night circulated on Twitter on Thursday showing her smiling broadly.
    • The president’s tweet was reminiscent of other comments that he made about women on the campaign trail — including his rival, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, whom he accused of not looking presidential and lacking the “stamina” needed for the job. He made fun of GOP rival Carly Fiorina’s face; tweeted a side-by-side comparison of his wife and the wife of then-rival Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.); and lashed out at Megyn Kelly of Fox News, saying that she had “blood coming out of her whatever” as she questioned him about comments he had made about women during a debate. Since becoming president, Trump has also continued to call Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) “Pocahontas” in mocking a controversy over her ancestry.
    • Although Trump has boasted about the level of support he has received from female voters, he is much more popular among men. Many of the protests during his presidency have been led by women, including hundreds of thousands who rallied in cities around the world the day after his inauguration for the Women’s March.
    • For Republicans who opposed Trump during the campaign, the episode has felt like a sickening moment of “I told you so,” Mair said.
    • “Personally, that’s a pretty demoralizing feeling,” Mair said. “A lot of people hoped that things would be different once he got into the office, but the guy’s been on this earth for seven decades. You can’t really change his behavior after all that.”
    • As of Thursday evening, Trump’s wife and daughters had not publicly reacted.
    • Stephanie Grisham, a spokeswoman for the first lady, referred reporters to comments that Melania Trump made on the campaign trail about her husband needing to defend himself. At an April 2016 rally in Milwaukee, she said: “When you attack him, he will punch back 10 times harder. No matter who you are, a man or a woman, he treats everyone equal.”
    • Scottie Nell Hughes was among the few female defenders to appear on national television in October after The Washington Post unearthed an “Access Hollywood” video that featured Donald Trump bragging about groping women without their permission. Hughes said Thursday that it is “definitely a struggle” for his supporters to defend him in such cases.
    • “I personally would never attack a woman and her looks, and I don’t like that at all,” said Hughes, who is now the spokeswoman for a pro-Trump political action committee, the Committee to Defend the President. “But America wanted a fighter, and that’s why we elected him, he’s fighting back — not exactly how I would choose to do it, but he’s defending himself.”
    ‘It is really not normal:’ Both sides condemn Trump for vulgar tweet about TV host - The Washington Post
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    A malignant vulgar narcissist, who can't stand the slightest glimmer of criticism, with zero impulse control, and compulsive need to lash out tenfold.

    Back in 2016, when I noted how the White House will be transitioning from classy & presidential to crass & unfit, @KayLloyd had the nerve to respond with some Fox News nonsense about Barack Obama bowing to Saudi king in 2009 as evidence of his being un-presidential.

    Of course, instead of covering your face in shame, you'll wallow in Trump's filth.
     
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    Literally, there are no words to describe this man's behavior! :rolleyes:

    If only it was possible to have a chat with his mother! ;) I'd like to know what she thinks of the mess that he keeps getting himself into! :cooler:
     
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    'nuff said...

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    That gourd didn't roll far from the vine.
     
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    Mika and Joe's colleagues believe Trump purposely crossed the line from simply picking a controversial fight with an easy target into being overtly abusive and repugnant as his own brand of deflection from a subject he does not want the public to focus on, in this case the utter failure that his healthcare bill has been (or any other legislative effort since his inauguration, for that matter).



    So, the question is - is he simply an impulsive vulgar hothead shooting his potty mouth off left and right with no impulse control or is he a masterful manipulator willing to go further into disgusting territory than others in a calculated effort to deflect? Whichever it is (perhaps both of the above), he's beyond reprehensible.
     
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    Navigating Trump's Twitter: 11 times Donald Trump tweeted something terrible about a woman
    Navigating Trump’s Twitter is a new series from Mic that explores how the president elects to use his favorite medium to impact policy, express his viewpoints, and attack the media.
    • Instead of covering Trump’s tweets as they come, we look for patterns in behavior that offer a window into the president’s actual world view and how he chooses to express it through unmediated 140-character missives.
    • President Donald Trump recently came under fire for attacking Morning Joe co-host Mika Brzezinski on Twitter with a sexist broadside about a “face lift.”
    • The attack was quickly condemned by many in Trump’s own party who expressed frustration that Trump’s uncalled-for attacks distracted from their broader policy agenda.
    • But if Republican politicians didn’t want their political objectives to be sidelined by unexpected bouts of online sexism, well, they probably shouldn’t have supported Trump’s presidency to begin with — because the lewd billionaire has made no bones over the years about lobbing these kinds of sexist attacks.
    • Here are 11 times that Donald Trump came for powerful women on Twitter using blatantly misogynistic rhetoric — all of which, unlike the Brzezinski tweet, predate his presidency.
    Cher
    • In 2012 Trump responded to a joke from Cher about his hair by publicly promising “not to talk about [her] massive plastic surgeries that didn’t work.” The grade school tactic of talking about something by vowing not to talk about it is a mainstay of in Trump’s Twitter attacks.
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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    .@cher--I don’t wear a “rug”—it’s mine. And I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries that didn’t work.
    3:23 PM · Nov 13, 2012

    Arianna Huffington
    • Trump has twice described former Huffington Post editor-in-chief Arianna Huffington as “unattractive both inside and out.” In both instances, he made reference to her ex-husband, former Republican Rep. Michael Huffington.
    • Trump’s obsession with the Huffington divorce may have something to do with his own experience as a wealthy, twice-divorced businessman. His tweets appear to brim with indignance at the fact that Arianna Huffington has eclipsed, in both stature and influence, the man who gave her her iconic last name.
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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    .@ariannahuff is unattractive both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man- he made a good decision.
    10:54 AM · Aug 28, 2012

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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    How much money is the extremely unattractive (both inside and out) Arianna Huffington paying her poor ex-hubby for the use of his name?
    10:08 PM · Apr 6, 2015

    Bette Midler
    • In October 2012, Trump came after star of stage and screen Bette Midler, once again employing his painfully not-clever “I refuse to say” strategy. Trump was responding to a tweet in which Midler argued he should be held down and have his hair cut off.
    • In his tweets, Trump gets to the heart of why he prefaces his barbs with a disclaimer on how hesitant he is to say it. The culprit? Reverse sexism.
    • “.@BetteMidler talks about my hair but I’m not allowed to talk about her ugly face or body — so I won’t. Is this a double standard?” Trump tweeted, explaining his contempt for Midler. It is truly unfair that the future president of the United States was once forced to endure mild chiding about his combover from a legendary actor and comedian, but couldn’t follow up with his opinions about her “ugly face and body” without having to frame them as acts of self-restraint. #Misandry #Sad!
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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    While @BetteMidler is an extremely unattractive woman, I refuse to say that because I always insist on being politically correct.
    11:59 AM · Oct 28, 2012

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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    .@BetteMidler talks about my hair but I'm not allowed to talk about her ugly face or body --- so I won't. Is this a double standard?
    11:57 AM · Oct 28, 2012

    Rosie O’Donnell
    • Trump’s longtime feud with talk show host Rosie O’Donnell has been well-documented. Though much of it has taken place off Twitter, Trump still managed to get in a few body-shaming tweets between 2013 and 2014.
    • Once again, Trump’s biggest concern is hypocrisy and political correctness. He could not resist declaring victory after the star admitted to suffering from feelings of shame about her body, despite her own publicly stated position on body-positivity.
    • And the billionaire, known for bragging about non-consensual sex acts, couldn’t help but manually retweet a follower’s query about how much money it would take for Trump to “make out” with the gay icon.
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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    Rosie O'Donnell just said she felt "shame" at being fat-not politically correct! She killed Star Jones for weight loss surgery, just had it!
    8:22 PM · May 9, 2014

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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    "@ForeverMcIn: @realDonaldTrump how much would it take for you to make out with Rosie O'Donnell?" One trillion, at least!
    12:11 AM · Mar 2, 2013

    Kristen Stewart
    • Between 2012 and 2013 Trump tweeted eight times about Kristen Stewart’s former relationship with Robert Pattinson. Yes, eight times. While most of his tweets center around concerns that Pattinson might get back together with Stewart after she cheated on him, one particular tweet stands out, as the future president of the United States calls the Twilight star a “dog.”
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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    Robert Pattinson should not take back Kristen Stewart. She cheated on him like a dog & will do it again--just
    watch. He can do much better!
    2:47 PM · Oct 17, 2012

    Sarah Jessica Parker
    • Trump’s feelings about the “unsexiness” of Sarah Jessica Parker did not fit in a tweet, so he directed his followers to a Facebook post where he could adequately expound on the subject.
    • “Sarah Jessica Parker voted ‘unsexiest woman alive’ – I agree. She said ‘it’s beneath me to comment on the potential Obama charitable gift.’ What’s really beneath her?”
    • The Sex and the City star had been referring to Barack and Michelle Obama’s attendance at a high-dollar fundraiser the actress had just held in Manhattan.
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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    Sarah Jessica Parker voted “unsexiest woman alive” – I agree. She said “it’s beneath me to comment on the... (link: http://fb.me/1YCkA5JUi) fb.me/1YCkA5JUi
    4:05 PM · Oct 26, 2012

    Heidi Cruz
    • In this famous moment from the 2016 campaign, Trump manages to both insult his primary competitor Ted Cruz’s wife while simultaneously objectifying his own.
    • Not sure what else really needs to be said here.
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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    "@Don_Vito_08: "A picture is worth a thousand words" @realDonaldTrump #LyingTed #NeverCruz @MELANIATRUMP "
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    11:55 PM · Mar 23, 2016

    And, of course, Hillary Clinton
    • Trump obviously did not make it through the 2016 general election without insulting Hillary Clinton as a woman. In this iconic tweet, which Trump deleted shortly after posting, the notorious philanderer reveals that he believes a man’s fidelity to his wife is based on her ability to “satisfy” him. Satisfied, America?
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    Navigating Trump's Twitter: 11 times Donald Trump tweeted something terrible about a woman - Mic
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    Some people seem more outraged over his revolting tweets than they do his agenda. I've also seen people use this as an opportunity to give war hawks and corporate shills a pass simply because they don't post cruel things on Twitter. If that's the case, we've set the bar far too low. A president can act "classy and presidential," yet take us from two wars to seven, increase surveillance, and push a right wing healthcare plan.

    But he never put down a woman for her looks, so he's golden.
     
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    A president should never tweet in the first place. Or even read all the online comments.

    I know it's not exactly the same, but somehow it reminds me of Bill Clinton's infidelity - and how that seemed the worst thing that could happen to American society.
     
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    Call me crazy, but I find both his tweets and his agenda revolting. Either should have disqualified him from public office.

    I'm assuming you're talking about Obama. If so, you seriously equate him with the pond scum currently occupying the White House? Oh, please. :re:

    Personally, I'm starting to miss George W. Bush. And that's saying something. For the time being, he may still be the worst president ever, but thanks to Trump, he's officially no longer the most ridiculous.
     
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